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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine if other professions were allowed to use the logic police can in court.

"Your honor, I acknowledge that I did run over that entire kindergarten class with my big rig, but if I had swerved there would have been a slightly elevated risk of me rolling over and crashing, so I had to. Truck driver safety has to come first, after all."

"Well, since no court has ruled that this exact situation is a violation of anyone's rights, you are legally immune!"

[-] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

IIRC, automobile accidents are the number one cause of death for on duty police deaths. Oftentimes their own fault not following policy during pursuits.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago

Or doing the pursuits at all, for that matter.

In a society where the government is surveiling every other person and have cameras everywhere, the old "if we don't get our perp now he's gone forever" trope is bullshit.

As much as they make for entertaining TV and make cops feel all macho and accomplished, car chases are COMPLETELY unnecessary reckless endangerment in almost all cases.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This came up in a brilliant way in a manga I was reading.

Two combat pros are facing off in a back alley, the aggressor trying to “test” their victim. The loser protagonist, who’s useless in a fight, hears the altercation from his store job, and rushes out to help his friend. He throws a paint bomb, used by stores to identify robbers, at the assailant.

The assailant runs, and spends the rest of the issue in a panic about how to conceal the paint; since they’d very much been relying on the option of being able to sneak out through crowds.

[-] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago

...So Flock cams need laser projectors, and they can just mark criminals with a big red X as they drive around. Maybe a different color for whatever they're wanted for. And then let the vigilanteism fly!

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

less pronouns, more well-defined references please. I had to read that last paragraph three times before I understood who you meant by "They".

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the feedback. Been working on creative writing recently, and it helps to know when my attempts at brevity are making things unclear.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're welcome, "the assailant" is much more clear now :) (I mean - as clear as it could be)

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

You'd think it's from dangerous assignment-based activities but it's not. It's from doing stupid shit in traffic stops and getting hit by innocent drivers. It's what happens when superficial authority meets 3 tons of metal at a mile a minute.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

They initiate traffic stops based on infractions that had no impact on safety at all, like rolling through a stop sign at an intersection with no other cars, and cause a far more dangerous situation with a roadside stop.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

From what I understand most police agencies have a no-pursuit policy. It's generally more hazardous to chase the person than it is to just phone ahead in the direction that the person's driving and have a blockade setup or just show up at their house

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[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

‘Not following policy’ means they don’t wear their seatbelts. Cops are so fucking stupid.

[-] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah safety last, no PPE for me toxic masculinity.

I remember huge pushback from officers when ballistic vests were first introduced. I was in a police science class and instructors had so many reasons; too hot, too heavy so can't chase down perps, will impede quickly exiting vehicle (same with seat belts), will give officers false sense of security and are more dangerous. Saw the same in media countrywide.

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[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah being a cop is dangerous but not like being a pizza delivery guy dangerous

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[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 10 points 1 week ago

If a policeman ever tells you to get out of your car during a traffic stop, you have to comply based on a ruling from Pennsylvania vs Mimms that they can remove you from your car if they have reason to believe you're dangerous and want to be able to see you at all times for officer safety.

So whenever you get asked to step out of the car, make sure you say, "I know you're scared." They love that!.

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 6 points 1 week ago

Haha, "don't be scared little man."

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

I've had at least three jobs that are always listed as more dangerous than a cop, but I've never gone around demanding respect because "I risk my life with every shift."

How risky is a cop's job, really? They have the full force of the entire government on their side, and an arsenal on their waist, and an even bigger arsenal in their vehicle. With a quick click on the radio, and they have a nearly unlimited army who will come to their aid, all armed to the teeth as well, and willing to back any cockamamie story he tells.

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[-] culprit@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Delivery workers should be in there too.

[-] GeirGrusom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Maybe loggers just need a service pistol.

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[-] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[-] Forester@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This combines fixed wing and helicopters, Look up the stats on remote bush pilots and helicopter pilots it makes a lot more sense

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[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

It's more like that they are the danger to everyone else.

[-] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

People at gas stations are at more danger then police.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Uhh, isn’t the presidency marked by the highest mortality rate amongst professions in the US?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago

Can't really compare a position that only 45 people have had over a 250 year period with regular jobs, though.

Besides, the last time a president died in office, my boomer dad was 12 years old. The last time a logfighter died on the job was probably some time this month if not this week.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

I think it might be a typo, but I’m absolutely referring to lumberjacks as “log fighters” from now on.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nah, I did that shit on purpose, inspired by this comment on gender neutral job titles on the original post from !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 😁

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I genuinely have no idea why someone would downvote source information like this.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

Some people are just joyless husks, I guess 🤷🏻

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