Why are people down voting news stories about things they disagree with? This is objectively an event that has happened regarding an influential person and a serious armed conflict.

This post is at -2 right now. Is this story posted in the wrong group? Fake? Sensationalized?

We can't just "vote away" world events.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did I personally downvote it? No. But I get why people would.

Isreal has been caught in so many bald-faced lies that at this point, in spite of Hamas' history of being absolutely horrible people, we're still forced to step back from every single claim made about them now and say "But did they really?"
Even if the claim is true, the decision to focus on reporting about specific, morally reprehensible actions by Hamas is a deliberate choice that serves to obfuscate and distract from the sheer unbelievable scale of the atrocities that Isreal is committing and has been committing in Palestine for decades.

Do I find the claim believable? Absolutely. But we have to step back and interrogate the intention behind making it. This is an attempt by the Biden administration to control the conversation, because they know that voters are pissed at them for their unflinching support of Isreal, in spite of their endless litany of war crimes. They're not willing to give up that support, so instead they have to find any way they can to turn the conversation away from what Isreal is doing.

This is propaganda. Whether it's true or not, its purpose is to control the way people think about the choices their government is making. And that's why people are downvoting it.

[–] Xoriff@kbin.social -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The point is that this was an informative post about something I don't like. So why would I downvote it?

Think of it like this. If there was a massive tsunami somewhere and somebody posted a link to a solid news report on it, up voting it is saying "thanks for the news" NOT "I am pro-tsunami".

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

If you believe that all news reporting exists only to inform, and never has any other purpose, you need to work on your media literacy.

Even if this is being reported in good faith, which it most likely is, the administration is still pursuing an agenda by putting this story out there to be reported. No one is under an obligation to support that agenda by remaining neutral about the information. People absolutely have a right to say "Please don't spread this" for various reasons up to and including "It enables genocide" and on platforms like Lemmy the downvote button is basically the "Please don't spread this" button.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because this story keeps getting posted to try to defend Israel's killing of citizens

[–] Bennettiquette@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

so many headlines about nethanyahu’s outrage over the lack of uprising of the international community in response to allegations of rape by hamas. thing is, there were eyewitness reports of and allegations of rape beginning on the day of the attack. of course if true, beyond unacceptable, but the world was already full well aware. just fits in line with israel’s track record of recycling talking points to boost outrage.

i have nothing against followers of judaism, but israel is clearly a ticking time bomb and should be handled as such.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Israel isn't even a community of folowers of Judaism - it's a cult of followers of Israel.

[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago

I don't normally upvote news stories, but did this one because of your comment ❤️

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago

What’s funny is that they want us to simultaneously believe that these are religious zealots that are so dedicated to their holy book that would die to uphold the laws set out in it but they also openly violated one of the major laws (rape) it specifically forbids just to “own the Jews”. If one Hamas member saw another raping a woman, they’d have license from their holy book itself to execute that person on the spot. There’s almost no crime in the world of Islam more severe than rape. Look it up.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

BOSTON, Dec 5 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday that Hamas had repeatedly raped women and mutilated their bodies during its Oct.7 assault on southern Israel, citing survivors and witnesses of the attacks.

In a statement on its Telegram channel, Hamas said it denounced Biden's "attempt to falsely accuse" its fighters of committing sexual violence and rape on Oct. 7.

The Islamist group said Biden was joining Israel's effort to cover up war crimes in Gaza committed with U.S. support and to mislead public opinion.

Israel held an event at the United Nations in New York on Monday focused on sexual violence against women during the Oct. 7 attack.

Rape as a weapon of war is a crime against humanity," former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the event in a pre-recorded video.

On Tuesday, Biden blamed Hamas for the collapse of a truce last week that had halted Israel's retaliatory military campaign against Gaza, saying the militant group's "refusal to release the remaining young women is what broke this deal".

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[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

They probably did... so did Israel soldiers during the past 70 years towards Pallestinian women.