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[-] mr_washee_washee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 years ago

small cease and desist for users

[-] androidul@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

They already get a lot of 💰from ad revenue, charging for a subscription just made that revenue even bigger.

It’s possible they’re losing some coins here and there from the ad revenue that they’ve become so aggressive 😆

[-] Chaos@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

I really think that Brave will circumvent this. Btw, YouTube will sue Invidious if they don't stop offering the service in the following weeks. So I think YouTube is onto something here.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

It is clear that YT needs income for its infrastructure and showing ads is a valid method, also to offer a premium account. If it were to see a banner on the page or even on the edge or below the video, it would be acceptable, but it is not when they destroy a concert with advertorials in the middle of the video or other too invasive ones that do not allow the video to be seen. With this, the use of an adblocker becomes a legitimate and necessary defense. If they still do not allow it, there is no other option than to use one of these front-ends or desktop-clients that exist, which extract the video without the ads, or go to adblockers at DNS level in the OS. Too bad that YT, regarding content offer, lacks valid competitors and this position can lead to abuse in front of the user.

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[-] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago

Hopefully we get a decent alternative soon

[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

PeerTube exists but it is not popular. It has a lot of potential though

[-] Ghast@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

It's about to have more potential for growth.

[-] psysok@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

I pay for a youtube premium family plan. Best money I spend monthly. I want to support the youtube creators that I watch, I don't have to see ads (I block them anyway), and I get a music service included.

[-] TWeaK@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

Yay for you?

[-] authed@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

Does any of that money really goes to creators?

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I actually do not understand the widespread hostility that people have toward this kind of thing. I watch a lot of content on YouTube, and I don't want to see ads, so I pay for premium. I watch a lot of content on Twitch, and I don't want to see ads, so I pay for turbo. Hosting a major video streaming website isn't cheap. It's not like these things are unreasonably priced. If you hate the ads so much, then why not pay for the service that the platform is offering you, and for the content that creators are providing on it? And if you don't watch often enough for ad-free viewing to be worth a few bucks a month to you, then why get so worked up about having to sit through an ad every now and then?

[-] beached@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

I hate ads. They are annoying, and waste too much of my time, are irrelevant to me 90% of the time, and often can be malicious.

I would like to watch videos on youtube, but I dont wish to watch videos on youtube if there are ads. Also, ads are not every now and again, they are 2 ads for every video without fail now. 2x 30s ads for a 5 minute video is as bad as cable, I ditched cable and replaced it with youtube.

[-] foxuin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 years ago

And if you don’t watch often enough for ad-free viewing to be worth a few bucks a month to you, then why get so worked up about having to sit through an ad every now and then?

There is an awkward gap where most services (not just YouTube) don't offer reasonable pricing for consuming small amounts of content. So if you consume a lot of YouTube, the subscription price is justified. If you consume very little YouTube, you can probably suffer through some ads. But if you're somewhere in the middle, there isn't a great option.

YouTube probably makes fractions of a cent off of ads on a single video it shows me, but I can't pay fractions of a cent to watch one video.

I'd consider this to actually be a pretty widespread problem across the internet, where it's frustratingly difficult to buy small amounts of content for a reasonable price. It's either the subscription or nothing for a ton of services.

[-] damipereira@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

I just don't think content should be behind a paywall. I want to live in a socialist utopia where content and knowledge is free to share, copyright is a relic of the past, and art and science blossom. Blocking ads takes me 0.0001% closer to that, so I'll take it. I don't want to pay, because I don't want money to exist, it's deeper than experience vs how much it is worth.

If I could download a car I would.

I just don’t think content should be behind a paywall. I want to live in a socialist utopia where content and knowledge is free to share, copyright is a relic of the past, and art and science blossom. Blocking ads takes me 0.0001% closer to that, so I’ll take it. I don’t want to pay, because I don’t want money to exist, it’s deeper than experience vs how much it is worth.

I do think that publicly-owned and publicly-funded alternatives to platforms like YouTube and Twitch could make the internet a far better place. I'd be surprised if, at least here in the EU, where there is an ongoing attempt to actually regulate tech companies, we didn't see this happening sooner or later.

For the time being, though, I know that the creators whose content I enjoy so much couldn't keep doing what they do without compensation, and the YouTube servers their content are hosted on would be taken down if they could not be paid for. So I pay for premium, content enough to know that I'm doing my fair part in keeping the videos I enjoy available and enabling the people who create them to keep creating more, even if the system under which all this occurs is much less than ideal.

[-] damipereira@lemmy.world 1 points 3 years ago

To be honest I pay for premium as well, not because of any moral thing, but just because there were ads in tv/mobile and I could not setup adblock easily enough (it was cheaper for my time to actually pay).

But yeah, finding a way to pay creators would be good. I'm from Argentina, and USD are way too pricey, so most patron contribution pages I find are out of my budget. The youtube premium subscription is the equivalent of 1.45USD here, if I could pay double that to "all creators that I see" automatically, I'd do it in a heartbeat, but paying 1usd to each of the hundreds of youtubers I might see a video from once in a while would be crazy.

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