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[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago (41 children)

It's hard to patch out boring, ask Bethesda

[–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

Wow, you stirred up some kind of hornets nest. I, for one, don't see anything wrong with any of your comments. They were perhaps blunt at times, but never derisive or derogatory, just thought I should put it out there.

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[–] Epicmulch@lemm.ee 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] ADHDefy@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

lol it's funny, all of the articles I see about this game mention that it's a "Zombie MMO" in the title. Like, I get that it was suggested that it would be, but it's objectively not.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

It still calls itself an MMO in its Steam description:

The Day Before offers players a uniquely reimagined journey into post-apocalyptic open-world MMO survival set in the present day on the US East Coast following a deadly pandemic.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

In this particular instance the journalists are doing their job. It was advertised as an MMO. They could change it to "so-called zombie MMO" or something, but that wouldn't be as neutral as the current title.

[–] Kainsley@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's not an anything anymore. Devs just went under and the servers will be down once they don't get paid. What a farce!!

[–] Kemwer@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reads list of games they published "Hmm never heard of any of them".

[–] proper@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking maybe it’s time to try it out but… You have to buy it?!! I was certain this would be free 2 play.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It'd be tough to scam people if it was f2p

[–] avater@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

how do you scam people when it was not possible to preorder this game due to steams early access rules?

And after launch you still have the two hour window for refund and the game has no own launcher, so it's pretty easy to get rid of this game and get your money back after trying out this mess. So if you loose money it would be at least partly on yourself, right?

Don't get me wrong this game had "I suck" on the forefront since it's announcement and it had some really shady marketing, but I wouldn't call it a scam, since you can very easy avoid to loose money on it.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So if you loose money it would be at least partly on yourself, right?

You could say this about most if not all scams I dare say. It's "your fault" you fell for it.

If I remember correctly the studio is known for releasing half-baked titles into EA, grab as much money as possible and abandon it.

The game was marketed as the most ambituous MMO since a very long time and apparently what they released is a bad extraction shooter so idk if I could call it anything but a scam.

[–] avater@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You could say this about most if not all scams I dare say. It’s “your fault” you fell for it.

Only if there is no chance to see your money back. A scam for me is something that is clearly desigend to trick you into buying it and then you out of luck because there is no chance of refunding your money. But in this case everybody who spend more then 20 minutes into it can see what this game is about and has no issues to get their money back.

The game was marketed as the most ambituous MMO since a very long time and apparently what they released is a bad extraction shooter so idk if I could call it anything but a scam.

I completeley agree on the shady marketing but again I dont see the possible advantage for the developers in this. They marketed their game as something that it is clearly not, so people just can check it for themselves or from valid ressources and then refund the game. No damage done except a little loss of time on your end.

And please don't think that I defend this game, I dont give a flying fuck about it, not even interested in it. I just find that a scam is something like Chronicles of Elyria, where all the kickstarter backers never wil see their money back. But The Day before is just a very terrible video game, nothing more, nothing less, at least in my opinion.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean... technically you are not wrong, but I feel you are handwaving a bit just because there is the 2 hour window forna refund. Not sure how the game is structured, but you can definitely make it look good enough to not see the scam in 2 hours.

Didn't play so can't really judge but from what I've seen and heard up until now it just looks they are selling promises they don't intend to keep - and that's the heart of the scam.

Edit: so I just read the studio is shutting down. Guess that explains why they released the game - might as well.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Zombies and MMOs, two concepts that were outdated at least 10 years ago.

[–] Epicmulch@lemm.ee 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Disagree. People are still clamoring for such a game hence the crazy popularity of the day after. There has yet been a game that had done it better than dayz stand alone. Which took nearly a decade to actually get good. If a triple a studio actually did a zombie mmo right it would be hella popular. Shit if the day after devs could pivot their game to be what they said it would be people would come flocking back.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Im with you on this, the issue I see is that to get a really big number of zombies, like for a proper "horde" to behave correctly would be a hell of a computing task. Especially when 20 players start throwing grenades into the middle.

[–] Fraylor@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What decade? It'll probably be 2030 before it's playable no less "good" DayZ is a joke since the mod was abandoned for SA.

[–] Nukken@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't name any zombie mmos, nevermind a well made one.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

And with this game, you still can't!

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 11 months ago

Doesn't mean that zombies aren't overdone AF.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

Wrong, there are several popular MMO and Zombie games today. I would argue MMOs are due a for a comeback

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Wait until you learn about MMOs and medieval fantasy…

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