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[–] clovernorth@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Games with Gold literally gave you ownership of a game. This is a subscription that gives you access to games. That’s more than a semantic difference and is a trend we have to be wary of.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Games with Gold literally gave you ownership of a game.

Did they? I was under the impression that the games you collect with Gold won't start if your subscription runs out similar to PS+.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

360 games gave ownership, XB1 games require and active sub just like PS plus.

[–] Crazycarl1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think they meant more with Gold you always have access to those games. With a sub the available games can come and go, so you may lose access to specific games if they leave the service.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No longer an xbox user but for what one would pay in a year on this it would be cheaper to just pick them up in the steam sales over time.

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Games with Gold only gave your permanent licenses for Xbox and Xbox 360 games. Xbox One games were limited to the console you claimed them on, I believe. Or they could only be played from your account. I know it wasn’t as ‘far reaching’ as the 360 games were.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

GwG only gave ownership of 360 titles. All XB1 titles required an active subscription so this isn’t a recent change.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The enshittification of Xbox live has begun, as we all predicted it would when gamepass became a thing.

[–] gk99@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enshittification of Xbox Live was day one of launch, dude. Online used to be free, nobody charged for it until Xbox did.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 1 points 1 year ago

Look we're not going to have this argument, it's been had a billion times on the internet. I'm a PC guy, paying for online is dumb. But a lot of people do and the service they get from it is going to be getting worse and more expensive in the future.

[–] TheDubz87@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as they don't change my $60/yr price point, I'm ok with it. I never really played too many of the games with gold games anyway.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheDubz87@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, I'm sure I won't have to wait long either. Subscriptions tend to climb unfortunately. I used to pay $10/mo for netflix, what're we at now? Like 16-18?

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's like 20 something now actually, but that may be because I have the 4k one or the more screens one, whatever idk. My wife needed it. Being a PC guy I'm still of the opinion charging for multiplayer is dumb anyways, it's pretty cool it's been the same price for like 20 years though.

[–] bricks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, for $1 (between 9.99 and 10.99) this is just a price decoy / asymmetric dominance exercise.

Wiki

Core will go away (or at least deprioritized from a marketing perspective) once they’ve successfully transitioned everyone off GfG.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gamepass console doesn’t include online multiplayer. You need ultimate at 15 a month to get both the gamepass library and online play.

[–] bricks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah man, that’s kinda goofy. I have PC Game Pass and I know they’re technically different products.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I agree it’s goofy. It’s just dumb that online multiplayer is still locked behind a paywall. I have Ultimate and I think it’s a good value at the moment but it still ticks me off I can’t play online on my Xbox without an active sub. Not to mention that Microsoft puts ads on the Xbox homepage that are not optional. Feels like they’re having their cake and eating it too.

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

From the markers of Xbox, Xbox One and Xbox Series, get the best deal of gaming with GamePass Core, GamePass Console, GamePass PC and GamePass Ultimate!

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So…Gold once gave us 2 Xbox One and 1 360 game a month to keep for as long as we had Gold, regardless if they were in the “library” or not.

In the last 12 months, the service has “evolved” to just a tiny part of the Game Pass library and pretty much nothing else.

Glad I’ve got a PS5 instead of a Series X because this “service” has completely died.

[–] Pillowpants@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is why I'm not happy with the Activision aquisition. It'd be one thing if Microsoft had become a pioneer of QOL improvements for the consumer. But they're not making any improvements. They're regressing. At least Sony still feels like they're trying to evolve into a better corporation. Their shift to Stars was mostly an upgrade. Microsoft continues to be anti-consumer at every chance they get.

[–] anon_water@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

They increased ultimate price too

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Personally I'm fine with this. It would be nice to get a refresh more often than "2 to 3 times a year" though...

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