As someone who is a die-hard linux user who would never even consider using windows, I would never even consider a system76 over a framework, honestly.
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I got a framework 12th gen Intel. I love it. One flaw is their board design with batch 5 and 6 boards can drain the RTC battery dead so you need to jump start it with a dumb USB brick on one side and fast on the other. I just got a RMA board from them no cost and I think it was my fault (plugged something into USBC port that I should not have). The big downside is not everything works perfectly like something from Microsoft when using windows OS. There isn't the army of developers for the hardware and stuff. Idk. I love mine. It is hard to justify buying another laptop when there are upgradable options.
@MashingBundle #TUXEDOComputers is what I advise for linux focused laptops.
Can't agree. 4 out of 6 tuxedos (different timings, different models) had to be repaired - some even multiple times. And still they remain buggy for me especially with usb-c docking stations. And no LVFS.
@binarious WOW, 4/6 sounds like some higher than average odds, that really sucks. I hope you at least gotten it all resolved, money back, or found what works for you. I had a battery swell up on me a couple years in but that's quite common and expected in my work environment. Extremely easy fix as well as they used a common, easy to source battery.
I've not tried a huge sampling of different ones (3~4), but I've yet to run across a USB-C dock that didn't work for me under gentoo.
The LVFS thing doesn't really bother me as much as the still delayed coreboot/libreboot they're working on. Most people couldn't care less about either of those things, and they're not a show-stopper for me, so it still remains at the top of my very light recommendations list.
Thank you. RMA procedure is still in progress, but their support is nice and I'm hopeful to get it sorted.
Interesting. I've tried around 5 docks from which only 1 worked correctly. Mostly issues with 4K at 60hz. Other notebooks worked well with the ones the tuxedos struggled.
I agree, the manual EC/BIOS updates aren't very nice, but not a show-stopper. Coreboot has been promised for quite some time now and they're still searching a coreboot dev. Maybe this will be a thing someday, but I don't think we'll see that soon reading their responses regarding this on reddit.