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Hella unlikely they were used to knit gloves

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 99 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Unlikely why?

Here's a video of it being used for that: https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN

I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife's $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn't just some weird status symbol among creative types.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 64 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just because you could use it for knitting it doesn't mean it was its purpose.
There's not a lot of detail, but you can check on the Wiki why it's ultimately an unlikely explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron#Purpose

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks! I really like the idea that it was a test of skill of a blacksmith.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

Knitting isn’t attested until almost a millennium after this artifact was created. Nålbinding was practiced during this era in a variety of areas and can look very similar, but is mechanically very diffferent.

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

Ofk. They just made them to troll future archaeologist

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just like my code. It's obvious what it does and doesn't need documentation.. until I try to understand it 2 years later.

[–] Senshi@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol, try two weeks later 😅

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My mother has a fascination with Roman Dodecahedra, so I 3D printed her one for Christmas. She hasn't knitted any gloves with them yet. (And may never, but she still likes it and has it sitting on the mantle over the fireplace.)

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Printing a Roman dodecahedron seems like an interesting torture test for a 3D printer, plenty of overhangs.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Yeah, the particular model I printed was specifically designed to be easy-ish to print. It's printed in like 32 parts (one for each face and one connector for each vertex) and requires assembly after printing. All to avoid overhangs and such.

But yeah. Raw-dogging it with the supports would be pretty nightmarish. Lol.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Every Roman has a plumbus in their home. It's clearly a Latin word.

[–] Cratermaker@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 10 months ago

E plumbus unum

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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Archeologists when we're ancient:

"Wtf is these?"

"I dunno but I bet my mum could knit a glove with it"

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

It'll take them a single step on them to understand these were used in wars. That they are no longer used because they were probably banned for human rights violations.

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[–] BabyVi@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Children's caltrop set.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

Rule number 1 of archaeology: if you don't know what it is, then it's religious.

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[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a prime chaotic resonator, It's to apply fossils to your gear..

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

By the shining golden arse of innocence, I got that reference.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

It's a rope junction, with the different holes for different knots and rope bundles, with the spokes serving as rope bend/end points. Presumably it would get weeded out as the places where it was employed either stopped making use of them, like perhaps the weather fabric roof shielding of the coliseum, or ended up using more specialized means, like for sailing.

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 27 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I like how archeologists never come to the conclusion that something could just be an art trend.

Everything has to have a useful purpose even though we all own stuff with no actual purpose.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The default bucket that archeologists throw stuff into if they really don't know is "religious object".

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oftentimes, that’s a sort of inside joke. If it’s even remotely probe-shaped, they assume it was used for sex. But since that doesn’t look nice on academic papers, they’ll use “ritual” as a euphemism.

Seriously, archeologists find a lot of ancient dildos.

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[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

The wiki on this specific object briefly mentions it may have been for decoration

[–] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah it's funny that's never the conclusion but logically it makes sense to not dismiss something as unknown until we're sure it wasn't used for anything else. Still can't wait for future civilizations to be very confused when they see my collection of funny looking coins.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They do come to that conclusion all the time, but in some cases it's impossible to know for sure. If they don't know for sure then they're not going to say it's definitely for decoration only, but they'll list it as an option, which they have done for this object.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

How dare you assert my wall of funkopops has no purpose!

[–] GarrulousBrevity@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

You don't know what to do with the three seashells?

[–] kenoh@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Until I looked at the comments here I thought this was the little box thingy that Shadowheart had in BG3.

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[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Alright, hear me out...lamp.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I like the idea that it was a blacksmith "benchy." Archeologists might do the same with the one 3D printing hobbyists make.

[–] IHasAHat@startrek.website 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Archeologists in the future: WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE SO MANY LITTLE BOATS?!

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

What else would it be? It's obviously a Katamari Damacy.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I love how, in this very thread, there are 3-4 pretty confident (and completely different) answers stating, without much doubt, its obvious purpose.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

My theory is that they had no practical purpose, they were just a trendy knickknack that eventually fell out of fashion. A Roman equivalent of a fidget spinner or something.

In a few thousand years whatever has become of humanity will be digging up fidget spinners and wondering about them in the same way we do with dodecahedrons. It's not as if anyone will have been preserving fidget spinner media for millennia to explain them.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

My personal idea is that they are objects created both to flex metalworking craftsman skill and in worship of sacred geometry. Ancient peoples ascribed divinity to the harmonies of the universe, especially the harmonies in mathematics like geometry. The fancier looking platonic solids like dodecahedron and icosohedron have almost magical levels of symmetry built in to them making them both aesthetically pleasing complex shapes. The fact they even exist inspires philosophical and even spiritual thoughts. As far as I understand romans had some very impressive archetecture incorporating mathematical ratios almost constantly, archetects and metal workers may very well have needed to worship geometry as a divine aspect in order to achieve such neurotic levels of mathematics in their aesthetic.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

It's a cat toy. They didn't have laser pointers back then.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 10 months ago

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[–] MrsDoyle@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I'm thinking coin sorter. You start by sorting the smallest coins through the littlest holes, and work your way up.

I'm a knitter, and making gloves with it just doesn't compute for me. It's too clumsy, with too many extra steps. They'd be making gloves from fabric or leather.

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[–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Looks like my dick would fit. It's a urinal.

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[–] Hazrod@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

The thingamabob needs no description

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Has anyone ever tried gathering them all in one place?

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's SCP-184 and you don't wanna know what it does.

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[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

I think you can bring it to Master Rahool for a piece of exotic gear.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

does....does it go in your butt?

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

No, only things that have a flange.

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