If onlyit had a more practical interior with buttons and driver's display
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Fuck Tesla for making an iPad glued to the dashboard the standard and only controls. I hate it so much.
I guess the one small upside to Volvo’s platform is that it is Android Automotive, and unlike Telsa, it has a voice assistant that isn’t trash. So at least you can reliably yell at the thing to turn the heater up.
Actually really like what I see of the EX30 but not seeing anything about the us tax credits for it. The dual motor runs up the price to 45k ish, but would be a steal for 40k.
There is no tax credit as the car is made in China. The fact it is still so "cheap" even with a 27.5% import tax is impressive.
It will be made in Belgium after 2025, at least the european ones.
Incredibly impressive even, we need more of this. Looking at some reviews, the biggest things anyone has to harp on is the all touchscreen interface for everything(understandably), and that the performance version just feels like it's got too much power for how it handles.
All in all, that's a pretty good endorsement for the average driver if youre ok with all touch controls.
that the performance version just feels like it's got too much power for how it handles.
That sounds so fun! Now you made me want to buy the car. Gosh dang it.
But, um, wouldn't you want a car that can handle the power it has?
As someone who is a car enthusiast, I like fun cars the best. Having an overwhelming amount of power can teach you how to control the car when traction is lost. Ever wondered why people buy hellcats?
Android Automotive is unfortunately a dealbreaker for me.
Why?
I don't need malware in my car
Well good luck buying any new-ish car.
Plenty of new cars you can buy and disable all that nonsense because it's not required for the vehicle to function.
The first thing you're asked to do on any Android or Apple device is to log into an account so they can tie all your activity to your PID.
You do not need an account for data collection and identification to take place. There's plenty of markers that will identify you, an example might be you go through a toll booth that happens to have a camera grabbing license plates which is used by the Department of Transportation but they outsource to company A for the license grabbing software. That company doesn't sell your information the DOT made sure of that! No, they don't sell it but they trade it under the guise of "using it for training purposes". Their partners happen to be Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile who cross reference license plates with cellular GPS coordinates at that particular time.
Owning a phone and driving past a camera was enough to identify you and your vehicle which can and will be sold and with every trivial mundane bit of data collected eventually a picture is painted of you.
Be wary helenslunch, they aren't out to get you but they are out to sell you.
You do not need an account for data collection and identification to take place.
I didn't say you did. But if you have one, it's guaranteed.
There's plenty of markers that will identify you
So we should just not put forward any effort to remove them?
I'm very aware of the words I just typed, I'm trying to help you stay informed beyond the obvious reasons for your choice.
I'm simply trying to help you make the best choice for you.
I appreciate the thought but I'm very well-informed on the topic, thanks.
With Volvo’s Android Automotive Polestars I don’t believe you need to login to anything. You can just drive the vehicle and use ‘ol Bluetooth to pair a phone.
They know who you are. I'm sure of it. Google doesn't develop these products out of charity.
They don’t need to know 100% of users. Being the default is more than enough to encourage a LOT of users to opt in and engage with their mapping, music, and store experiences. You don’t have to be one of those users if you don’t want.
Hell, even anonymous map data is still valuable to them. A totally anonymous user can still inform a mapping service about traffic, detours, and where maps need to be revised.
If it runs android automotive 13 you can use the android auto receiver app to enable regular android auto usage. I know Volvo has comfirmed they are working on updating some of their existing cars to AA 13.
I don't understand what that means. It has an Android operating system. There's no way to use that without malware because Google won't let you.
Most people want android auto which is akin to apple's car play. Volvo uses android automotive which is android like you see on phones. They are two different things with very confusing names. Android auto receiver is a first party (Google) app which let's you use android auto (what people want) on android automotive. However it only works on the newest version of Android automotive.
I'm fully aware of what both of these things are. Android Auto is fine (great even) because there are lots of popular tools to limit data leaks on your phone. Those things don't exist in Android Automotive.
Plus a phone costs $400 vs. this $35k car and thus are much easier to replace, should Volvo or Google decide they want to perpetuate corporate shitfuckery with my devices.
As opposed to regular old Android that every manufacturer is already using?
I don't know what any other manufacturer is using except Tesla who uses Linux.
Yup. Probably same here.
Geely are buying quite a big chunk of the EV market