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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

People talk about Twitter?

[–] thirstyhyena@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

In professional settings, I still call it Twitter because my customers doesnt know or understand the name change

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

Epic rebranding fail.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shouldn't renaming a social media really be up to the users? Shouldn't twitter users vote on that?

We just conceded that social media are owned by some corporate entity but the only values is in the users themselves. They build it. They should "own" and control the social media democratically, it should be accountable to them. It seems much more obvious than with traditional media that these should be democratic institutions.

Elon Musk behaving so blatantly stupid is unusual but the problem is really much larger.

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No.

Users shouldn't have any say over how a social media company is run -- there would be utter chaos.

Take Twitter for example -- I would imagine there are 33% liberals, 33% conservatives, 5% neo-nazis, 5% neo-communists and 24% who don't give a crap about politics because they are bots from China.

(I am just using these figures for an example -- I have no idea about real figures).

So if you need a new name then there would be a huge fight to call it any number of things, none of which relate to a corporate brand.

And if you ask them about corporate policies? "Censorship"? "Should we allow free speech?" "Should we allow hate speech?" "What is hate speech?"

Can you imagine the chaos?

No. Social media should not be run by its users. It is just asking for it to implode within a day.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Outside of companies with shareholders (who own part of the company) can you name any other companies where "users" get a say on how its run?

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well I doubt it exists. But your arguments should logically apply just as well to democracy in general. Not saying you're totally wrong because you'd get politics and misinformation, but the attitude to self determination of people is a bit worrying.

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No offence, but you sound insane.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You sound like a fascist. Offense intended.

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

(grin) I can see how that could be the case.

But -- polite insults aside -- all I am saying is that I am not sure how companies and corporations can be democratically answerable to their customers. (Again -- I am excluding those companies/corporations that have shareholders).

If they want to listen to their customers, or customers want to stage boycotts to force companies to act in a specific way that's a different matter, but......... take Globodex.

Globodex is a fictional company that is a multinational company with branches in America, the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Russia and Australia.

It doesn't have any shareholders -- it is run by a board of twelve men and women.

How could that be democratically run by its customers? Given that there are millions of customers across eight countries?

And why would you think that because I believe this -- that we shouldn't have a say in how companies we use are run -- that we shouldn't have a say in how our country is run? Because that seems like a very wild jump that is entirely unfounded by any evidence.

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