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Reddit users thevincentasteroid and MMD3_ posted about an auto-playing video ad (with sound) on the home screen. The ad is for Chicken Tender Wraps from Carl’s Jr. When it begins auto-playing, it pushes all the other UI elements out of focus and goes almost full-screen, returning to the home screen after it has played through once.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 114 points 10 months ago (32 children)

Why are people in this thread fine with ads being played on their televisions. So strange.

[–] RDAM_Whiskers@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago

Because there either astroturfing or bots astroturfing

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Not apologizing for them, but, probably because they see it as still a less shitty option rather than recognizing what the options should or could be.

Also, even if the streaming box is ad-free, all the streaming services will have ads. It’s like a lose lose lose all the way down.

Capitalism has been on this accelerated death by 1000 cuts phase since marketing weenies figured out how to market during the worst parts of covid, not everyone has caught on. Especially in America where #hailcapitalism brainwashing is still chugging along.

Probably time to just give up and go back to books. Although in America, we will lose that skill in another couple of generations as our education system continues to rot. So there’s that.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 10 months ago

In the mean time there's the high seas and jellyfin

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Nope.

That's just how the ad at the top looks and always has, and yes, it plays if you hover over it, they always have, and yes, it expands out if you keep watching it and don't touch anything.

If you use the UI normally the ad doesn't play, the person in that video explicitly played the ad.

plays ad

ad plays

SurprisedPikachu.jpeg

Get this clickbait shit outta here. It's literally an ai generated article that stole content off a reddit post as it's "source". Have some standards people.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 77 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Why the fuck are there ads at all?? The advertisement did exactly as the article says it does -- it autoplays full screen if you cursor over the fucking advertisement.

Not clickbait at all.

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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 59 points 10 months ago (6 children)

As an AppleTV user I’m honestly shocked folks are ok with their product they paid for having advertisements on it like that anyways?

It’s one thing to advertise a show or an app / service that is in the App Store but another to show actual ads.

It’s weird to me.

Then again, you and your advertisement ID are googles business.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (16 children)

We are not okay with it.
But else you have this, some flavor of AndroidTV + Launcher, an AppleTV which probably doesnt have feature parity with all apps available for the AndroidTV or you setup your own device which involves (probably) work.

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[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

I have an android tv from Sony which is basically android tv without any kind of skin AFAIK. No ads. I had suggested videos from apps and stuff but hat was configurable and removed years ago.

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[–] machinin@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I've had an Android TV for about five years. I recently bought a TV with Google TV. I don't know if this is how Google TV has always been, but it wasn't that way in Android TV.

Seeing the home screen on the Google TV made me immediately regret the purchase. Unfortunately, the model I bought disabled the ability to make alternate launchers default. I was able to put it in app mode, but it was still plastering ads everytime you turned on the TV or hit the home button. Absolutely disgusting.

The home screen is so bad I finally set up pi-hole on my network. Now there is just a blank area where the ads used to be with a notification saying I'm not connected to the internet, although my services are fine.

I'll never by a Google TV again unless I can make alternative launchers default. I'm really glad I installed pi-hole, those TV send so much info back to Google. I recommend it to anyone.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I've never heard of the ads people complained about. Mine was just what new streaming show was being promoted. Kind of an add, but relevant and only on home screen.

But....

My Sony TV 100% was playing the Hardee's ad today.

It's not a huge deal, but still worse than it was yesterday

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[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's weird how much better Chromecast was when it came out than it is now. Stronger hardware, sure, but no real antifeatures, you could set it up without installing the app, you could use the app without giving it location data, casting was way more straightforward...

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 10 months ago

I feel that way about everything Google makes. Entire company is nose diving

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Idk...I had to throw out my first gen Chromecast because it does fuck all compared to literally any other streaming stick and it could no longer play HD videos without lagging to shit. When they added Android TV, it became a hell of a lot more useful.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I have the first Chromecast. Google emailed me a few years ago that it's no longer supported, and that it'll be a brick soon. That was about 3 years ago. As long as I can project my desktop, it works for me!

And I was getting really concerned about getting the latest model too.

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[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you have a CCwGTV, you should be using Apps Only mode. Sucks that Google hides this, because I've found that this is the best streaming device for my needs, but they just keep pushing ads like this. Makes me want to do a homebrew chromecast device.

But switching to Apps Only mode is a decent workaround... for now. https://support.google.com/googletv/answer/10070784?hl=en

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Damn I wish my firestick had that.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

It's not even "apps only" since they still show sponsored shows at the top. Probably only a matter of time before more ads worm their way in.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you have a pi-hole or other way to block access to your network, I've found these useful to block:

androidtvwatsonfe-pa.googleapis.com

androidtvchannels-pa.googleapis.com

androidtvlauncherxfe-pa.googleapis.com

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Amazing that blocking DNS is still a thing for gadgets like this.

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Dns resolution is integral to load balancing and regional content delivery. There is no universe where a single server, even a specially designed asic, could handle proxy routing if there was a DNS outage and every iPhone or android device or whatever failed to a single IP. Thank God the Internet works this way tbh, dns-based content blocking will probably be the only thing we can do eventually

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

Google ecosystem problems :(.

[–] xonigo@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Download another launcher, set it as default home, and forget about google's excessive ads. Depending on your model, you may need to run an ADB command. You may need to get a remote remapper app to remap the home button to open the launcher

I am using this one for my android tv https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.projengmenu

And flauncher for my chromecast https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.efesser.flauncher

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[–] GustavoFring@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

All the more reason to fire up adb and replace that launcher before they take that ability away.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago

I wanna see what the "they're not ads, they're recommendations!!!" crowd has to say now

[–] spez_@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

We need Matter Casting

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Step 1. Open window.

Step 2. Grab TV.

Step 3. Launch TV.

Step 4. Start pricing monitors.

[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or just don't connect the TV to your network. It has inputs. Use an input device you have control over. The end.

[–] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

a Chromecast is one of those inputs. And it has been a nice product. The reason people are mad is that they Google changed the product after they bought it significantly.

and yes. Today the only reasonable good TV is a computer monitor connected to a device I have control over.

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[–] heartsofwar@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

auto-playing video ad (with sound) on the home screen When it begins auto-playing, it pushes all the other UI elements out of focus and goes almost full-screen, returning to the home screen after it has played

While the above is technically accurate, I personally don't think it is representing the full truth.

CCwGTV UI HOME screen has always been split into 3 essential areas:

  • Top menu: a menu allowing you to select / navigate beyond the CCwGTV Home screen. this is located at the top of the screen
  • Center screen banner: usually displays 6 movie or TV show promotional ads. This banner takes up half the screen when un-focused, and the ad / movie / TV show promotion will auto-play without sound. If focused for more than 4 seconds, the ad / movie / TV show promotion will grow to fill the screen 90% and play with sound; however, any click of a button or navigation and the CCwGTV will respond / exit taking the user where they want to go
  • Bottom Apps / movie / TV show suggestions: select / navigate different suggestions of movies, apps, or TV shows based on your recently watched, subscribed, or installed apps.

While I personally would prefer only seeing movie or TV show promotions, the current programming of the CCwGTV banner is a suitable compromise, in my mind. Why do I feel this way?

Prior to CCwGTV, I was a huge Roku user... I owned 5 Roku, one for each bedroom + Family room + travel. Each Roku was $80-$150, but the Roku experience was miserably sub-par compared to what they wanted it to be. Enter Google... for $50, the CCwGTV basically offered 97% of the features of the most expensive $150 Roku, and the experience was everything Roku wanted but couldn't deliver.

As it stands... I'm ok with how things are; you might not agree, but as others have said, you can enter App only mode, install a different launcher, or pi-hole out the ads. And for those that continue to complain they shouldn't have to do that for a product they paid for... yes, I agree... but I personally think Google aggressively under priced the CCwGTV for this very reason.

In addition, I believe the way CCwGTV currently shows one ad to 5 Movie or TV show promotions is a much better experience than what you'd get at a movie theater where you have to sit through several minutes of ads, on loop with sound, before the movie / TV show promotions even start.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Show your local Carls Jr. how much you appreciate this shit by throwing a brick through their front window today.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Brought to you by Carl's Jr

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[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Checkout adbapp control and install flauncher.

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