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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 78 points 9 months ago (4 children)

One of the most ultimate proofs against God for me actually. That right there is one of the single most pure human beings this planet has ever known and he was rewarded with cancer.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile, Donald Trump is already 4 years older than Fred Rogers was when he died.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe it proves there is a god and he's an evil motherfucker?

Although I would say an indifferent universe is the culprit.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The theist rebuttals they list are absolutely incoherent if not ridiculous

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Or Cthulhu...

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

God giving little kids cancer is proof enough that religion is all bullshit.

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Mr Rogers was a muhfuckin treasure. Stood before a hostile congress and won them over with sheer wholesomeness. PBS would likely not exist without that landmark testimony.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What sucks is if he made that same testimony today most of Congress would probably tell him to fuck off.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fox News literally called him evil.

[–] sfbing@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So -- I had to check that out, so that I can use it. Here's a citation, or at least a corroboration:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's wild, an actual minister who dedicated his life to teaching compassion and empathy, evil. That really does tell me everything I need to know about them. I grew up on Mr. Roger's, like others have said, the man was a Saint. They knew what they were saying was a lie. They're propagandists, projecting again; they're the evil ones.

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[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Consult the special interest group lobbyists and then tell him to fuck off for the good if the children.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wish he won them over. He beat them. They couldn't well vote against it after his testimony could they, otherwise everyone would have known then what a bunch of trash conservatives are.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that's the difference between preaching faith, secularism and atheism.

Mr Rogers is secular, on his show while being a preacher in a church. Secular things don't haveto be atheist; just be presented in a way with no requirement of relying on a particular religious faith.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Hey, you’re not supposed to have well reasoned, subtle thoughts here.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everything you need to know about Fox News can be summed up by watching the clip of them calling him evil. Mr won’t you be my goddamn neighbor is an evil person in their view, and that’ll teach you to recognize screaming hot projection.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've never seen that clip, and now that you've told us about it, I never want to.

I don't want to get that angry if I can avoid it.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

First time I saw it I was incensed, now it’s just my reference for anytime people bring him up. I have a lot of right wing family….they are yet to be convinced. If you’re not sold on being a good neighbor, then that’s on you. That man and his sweaters are gospel

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If ever there was a salesperson for Christianity. It's possible to be a Christian and fully understand that they're just stories, not real. The religion is the adherence to being generous, kind, and patient.

[–] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

and LOVE THY FUCKING NEIGHBOR.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The one with the coal rolling pick-up truck, the don't tread on me flag waving, and the "I'm looking forward to shooting intruders" sign above the front door?

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago

Yes, actually. That's the whole point of Christianity.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

And forgiveness for...well...NOT being such.

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

Won’t you be my neighbor?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If you build it, they will come.

Build a life of character, love, compassion, kindness, and respect, that is. And we still admire the man for his teachings.

Unfortunately religions build power structures for control, wealth, exclusivity, hypocrisy, and repressive dogma. That's why people are leaving.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 15 points 9 months ago

You don't need to invoke the name if you are living out the concept for all to see.

The Bible has a phrase: judge by the fruits - and it works for Trump the same as it does Rogers.

e.g., look at how George Lucas treated Star Wars (even before Disney bought it, though notably he's the one who sold it to them) and what happened to that franchise, whereas Gene Roddenberry creator of Star Trek was a god among men, leaving an enduring legacy long after he died.

i.e. it's not the source, it's the message that is worthwhile (yes that's also there too - Isaiah 55:11:-P).

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Proud to be from the same tiny little town as this GOAT.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, never thought I'd see a neighbor here!

I share a hometown and a birthday with him!

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 points 9 months ago
[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

I honestly wonder if the increased sociopathy of today's world would phase him.

There are charter schools around me that literally advertise how they teach kids NOT to befriend people who can't help themselves (Challenger Schools). Like as a selling point.

https://www.challengerschool.com/newsroom/individual-rights-setting-students-success

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You know, I already had very little hope for humanity without knowing these horrid places exist

This shit is absolutely sociopathic, jesus fucking christ

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Their radio ads are worse, but I couldn't find a link. Little kids talking about how they learned they only want friends who are "self-sufficient."

It's literally brainwashing kids into aspirational sociopathy.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Unholy fuck

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[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He was an absolute treasure.

You have to skip the pretzel factory episode for the meme to hold though - they go into the whole history of the christian origin

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

He built a whole imaginary town for kids to feel their feelings, we’ll give him one free god pass

He’s a treasure no matter your denomination

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

This is a description of what happens in that episode:

Fred Rogers' religious foundation becomes apparent in this episode as he hears an explanation of what a pretzel represents: Originally, pretzels were "given to children for knowing prayers" in Germany. As they are made, pretzels are first shaped "like a great big U. Take one [side] and cross it over the other. This is to represent children's arms praying to God. Then we take one and fold over the other. That represents your parents -- mom and dad. We pick up the ends and fold them on back." When Mister Rogers asks if there always has to be three holes in a pretzel, he is told that the three holes represent the Holy Trinity.

It sounds to me like religion is discussed, but no one is told what to believe. Just why a pretzel is that shape. It doesn't seem especially different than hearing any other myth. I'm guessing that little kids might want to know why a pretzel is the shape it is and that is the reason.

I wouldn't count it at teaching kids about anything but why a pretzel is a pretzel shape.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

A real Christian!

[–] 65gmexl3@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had no idea who this person is until i saw this post. And i just found out there's a movie out there played by Tom hanks

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you aren't American or are younger, that isn't all that surprising. To those of us who grew up in the U.S. in the 1990s or before, he's the reason why some of us still have some empathy left in us.

[–] WhistlingGhost@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

"Won't you be my neighbor?" I still love Mr. Rogers so much, he is one of the main reasons I still hope for some form of an afterlife... I want to hug that man and say thank you a million times.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is why the Presbyterian Church is dying, because they're all becoming atheist

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The churches that are booming are the ones that preach hate. I think you might have it backwards.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Ha was born Presbyterian and am atheist. It's funny though because my parents were very much "it's cool if this isn't your thing" when I was young. They took me to church just to show me my options, and never gave me any guilt or grief over stop going.

Tbh that's most Presbyterians you meet in my exp. They believe in deeds and service to the community, even outside that church, to be the most divine way to spread the word of God. Not prostilization or damnation and guilt. They're some of the most tolerant of Christians and see the value of living around others who don't necessarily share their beliefs.

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