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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I have to agree. He will not.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (13 children)

I still fail to see anything resembling logic in the GOP's sudden war against Taylor Swift. I don't follow Taylor Swift at all, but to my knowledge has never publicly endorsed a candidate or even taken a side on a political issue. She is a pop singer currently enjoying outsized popularity, but it's mostly about catering to preteen girls, and showing up at NFL games acting as if she's just the world's richest starstruck fan.

Her base, or at least the ones old enough to vote, aren't interested in her politics. They're interested in her music. They're interested in her fashion. They're interested in watching her fawn all over Travis Kelce like she's a 12 year old girl. There was no overlap between Swifties and the political left.

But if the GOP wants to put that ball in play, there will be. They are currently trying to frame it as you can either be a Swiftie or MAGA. And if the GOP thinks that Swifties are going to abandon her for Donald fucking Trump, they're going to have a bad time. And given how tight the race is in some of the swing states Trump needs to carry if he has a shot at winning, there is a very real possibility that he could end up losing races in states he may have otherwise won because he pissed off enough Swifties to swing the election. (Remember that some of these states were decided by barely 10,000 votes. I will guarantee you there is not a state in the country that doesn't have at least that many Swifties, probably several times over.)

Taylor Swift's fan base aren't cans of Bud Light. Taylor Swift doesn't have corporate shareholders to answer to. Taylor Swift isn't going to back down out of fear of lost sales. Any Swifties that are motivated enough to go to the polls based off of this stupid culture war I will guarantee will vote in lockstep for Biden. Not even for policy reasons, but just as their way of telling the GOP to go fuck themselves.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They’re worried she will convince a fair amount of younger folks to register to vote. It will make it harder for them to cheat, so they have to invent crazy conspiracy theories about her instead of admitting their policies are just actual shit.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear Taylor avoided commenting on politics until 2018. At that point she endorsed some Democrat candidates in TN. Since then, when asked, she had made it clear that she will never support DJT or the GOP in general. The GOP absolutely put this ball in play, because The View were the "reporters" that drug it out of her. You're correct that she seems to avoid politics like the plague, and with good reasons.

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[–] SeedyOne@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

It wasn't Bill & Ted but actually Ms. Swift that might unite and save the future. What a timeline.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I really feel this is a Streisand Effect taking action. There's no way this doesn't make Taylor Swift more political.

Her voter-turnout drives will be massive for the election.

Oh and if you hear any of these people complain about celebrities, remind them that they got Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair at the RNC in some demented rant.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Everyone wants Taylor Swift to enter the political fray but I’d be a little wary if you value democracy. Swifties have a charismatic leader, are very organized, and everyone one of them likes to make five year plans and let 100 flowers bloom. We’ve seen that combination before and it got very messy for a few years.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Frank Herbert has entered the chat.

[–] WhollyGuacamole@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I see a holy war spreading across the universe like unquenchable fire.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

They call her Reverend Mother Taylor Swift

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Donald Trump is losing the war against his own stupid mouth, of course he's not going to win against the Swifties.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Swift's US adult fan base ... is unafraid to "go low"

The fan base is very large and in any group of that size there are going to be enough people willing to "go low" to form a mob. That doesn't mean that the average Swift fan is more willing to "go low" than the average person who isn't her fan. (I'm pretty sure that the average Swift fan is less willing to "go low" than the average Trump supporter.)

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


After weeks of Republican media pundits and a former presidential candidate vilifying her, going as far as saying she's a Defense Department psy-op, it seems all but certain Trump will jump into the fray soon as well after Rolling Stone reported one of his confidants predicted a "holy war" against the pop sensation.

If that and the aforementioned survey are correct, that means there are nearly 137 million voting-age Swift supporters situated across the US, or approximately 60% of the total number of votes cast in the 2020 presidential election for either Biden or Trump.

Sure, many of those millions of conservative fans won't cross the aisle in retribution for sullying Swift's name, but Biden won nine states in 2020 by less than 100,000 votes.

If just a small fraction of Swift's Republican fans defect over such attacks, it could legitimately help Biden secure a second term in the White House.

A colleague of mine was baselessly slandered as a groomer and a pedophile, had their family doxxed, and received death threats from Swifties for the crime of simply enjoying Beyoncé's recent tour more than Swift's.

The Swifties' condemnation of that opinion, as minor as it was, highlights a major reason they're more dangerous to Trump's reelection plans than any Democratic leader in the country: While Democrats have routinely refused to "go low" instead of "high" responding to Trump's bullying, Swift fans have never held back and they're not held to the same standards and in positions of power.


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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

To put that into perspective, the 2020 US Census found there are around 258.3 million adults in the country. If that and the aforementioned survey are correct, that means there are nearly 137 million voting-age Swift supporters situated across the US, or approximately 60% of the total number of votes cast in the 2020 presidential election for either Biden or Trump.

I've always said a third party vote is a waste.

But the vast majority of my presidential votes has been for candidates I think will be bad presidents, just a Republican would be worse.

If Tay Tay ran a third party campaign...

I'd vote for her in a heartbeat, literally every reason that's making me vote Biden is true for her as well. She has the support to pull it off, enough that if she ran, voting for Biden would be the "throwing your vote away" choice.

Even if she literally did nothing as president, that's better than Biden only doing some of the awful shit trump would do.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You son of a bitch, I’m in!

We have elected a movie star and a reality tv show figurehead, why not t-swift?

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