From the title I completely expected this to be about how often they have T'Pol half (or fully) naked.
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My issue with ENT is the treatment of female characters. It's not just T'Pol, but she definitely comes off worse. It's all pretty cringy watching it with 2023 eyes. That crap with the Doctor guilting T'Pol into sexy time Vulcan therapy with Tripp, for example. Urgh. Very much of the "FHM" era. That, and most (all?) the characters are unlikable. I've tried many times to watch it since the time but struggle with more than 1 or 2 episodes.
@rubikcuber @TeaHands I mostly remember Hoshi and her "am I really working with all these dumb children?" constant face. The rest were either someone randomly having to shower with T'Pol, or Rick Berman making T'Pol have anime falls over Archer (boobs to the face, etc). And Tripp being the most insufferable asshole always... I think the only things I liked from Enterprise were the opening (I know most people don't) and Hoshi.
You're not wrong, although I'm never sure which of Tripp or Merryweather was the most insufferable asshole.
Hoshi wasn't immune from anime treatment either. The time she dropped down from a ceiling vent, leaving her clothing snagged behind her was particularly egregious.
That moment was when the show lost me, it was ridiculous. It reminded me of those old Art Frahm pinup posters where they depicted, against all physics and plausible circumstance, a woman's underwear suddenly dropping down around her ankles from under her dress in public.
That episode with the mirror universe was really good.
Years ago, I decided to watch Enterprise from beginning to “end”. I eventually enjoyed it, but damn the amount of “fan service” nearly made me quit due to the pure cringe factor. Also, if your name wasn’t Archer you weren’t interesting.
Then don't watch it?
Heh. While I get it that some people are more squeamish, I never had a problem with showing stuff like that in ST. I found the extreme sanitisation of older Treks (and other shows/media of those eras) in this regard pretty annoying.
In fact, I still want that Tarantino Trek movie.
The sanitation is part of the charm, IMO.
I can see fhat, but I personally find it weird, at least when going back after ENT.
I just don't quite get why society at some point decided that simulated violence is ok but blood isn't. It just goes hand in hand...
Gross TV shows are one issue but what's this about wanting to disassociate from eating food?
I have an eating disorder
Yeah, but quite often you get to see them wash it all off.
Yeah when I saw the title I assumed it was going to be about the sheer crassness of the quarantine room scenes.
I mean that sure doesn't help me finish my dinner either
Feel that way sometimes, although I usually don't care if it is a good story.