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Recently I finished Asimov's Foundation universe and now I want to try something from other authors. Two series I'm most interested in are Dune and Hyperion but I'm not sure which one to read first. Any recommendations?

Edit: I decided to go with Hyperion first and after that I will read Dune. Thank you all for commenting.

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[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hyperion, then Dune. Hyperion is really awesome but its gonna pale in comparison to Dune, IMO

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with this. They are two entirely different kinds of books, but anything pales in comparison to the Dune series.

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Dune is different. There is nothing else like it. Maybe the closest I've found to it is the Book of the New Sun series but I have to take those even slower than I did Dune because they are DENSE

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Dune is my pick. I've read both and I've gone back to dune time and time again but only read Hyperion the once. Just my personal preference. Both were amazing but for me dune had better reread value.

[–] nemanin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dune over Hyperion all day. But you should really read A Deepness in the Sky. Everyone should.

[–] Romanmir@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vinge's other one, "A Fire Upon the Deep", is also a fun thought experiment.

[–] Weirdmusic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Any and all (including his short stories) Vinge's works are well worth a read. He's up there with David Brin IMHO. Do yourself a favour and read his Uplift series.

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago
[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dune. Just so you can participate in the buzz generated by the films, and have a greater appreciation of their adaptation attempt.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

They did a great job on the first one imo. I saw the trailer for 2 while watching Oppenheimer and looks legit.

[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read the first book of each series and see how you feel about them. No need to commit to the whole series until you're sure you like one. Both are great in their own way. But it is worth noting that Dune gets really different after the first book and books 3 and 4 of Hyperion are like a whole different story. You might consider reading the first book of Dune, then Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion. Then see about the rest.

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[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For my money, Dune is by far the better book. But I'd personally stop reading after about the 4th one in the series max (might even stop at 3). They don't hold up well after that I don't think.

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[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 3 main books are chefs kiss but there is an extended universe.

Also look into the revelationspace books.

[–] snowyday@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Book 4, God Emperor, is the best.

I hated it the first time. Struggled the second and third. Loved it every reread since

[–] steakmeout@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Hyperion is more meaningful. Dune is more of an epic.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I love both series from first to last book. Hyperion is a fun blend of genres and ideas, whereas Dune is epic fantasy in space. They are VERY different, but equally amazing.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is a very hard question.

Hyperion first, because it's nice and will give you momentum.

Dune is beautiful, but dense, and especially later it starts sapping energy, in fact quit after God-Emperor, the last 2 don't have that much to offer.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked the first and last book best.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Dune was great, GE was my favorite, but chapterhouse really felt like he went way around the bend.

[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always felt Dune was boring and overrated. Hyperion I loved though.

[–] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha I know it’s an unpopular opinion. But I read all the books as a kid waiting for a payoff that just never seemed to come for me.

[–] Teodomo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

FWIW I just read the first book and while I found the world interesting I got tired of the book jerking the main character off so much.

[–] iridiom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would say Dune first but give Hyperion a shot. I actually just finished the Hyperion cantos the other day and am still working through the 6th Dune book.

I personally think Hyperion has some cool ideas and concepts but just never really hit greatness for me.

To also mimic what others are saying Dune changes drastically after book 3 and 4 and Hyperion is basically separate stories split between books 1,2 and 3,4.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago
[–] ZeroSkill_Sorry@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I loved Hyperion, I'm thinking about rereading it. The original Dune has been my favorite since I was 13 years old. I'm going to get flayed alive for saying this, but I honestly enjoyed most of the prequels his son and Kevin J. Anderson wrote.

[–] hot_guava@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hyperion is one of my favorite books. It's uneven, but very good. I've read the whole series and after the first one they are fine, but nothing to write home about. You can easily stop after the first book if you want something else.

Dune's complete series is worthwhile, but I don't really care for Herbert's writing style. The universe is very rich and the series explores some of the great ideas in science fiction, but it's like an RPG sourcebook masquerading as a novel to my tastes.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They both so good but have different vibes. If you want aliens and tech and the Zerg- Hyperion. If you want worms and sand and magic and ancient dynasties go dune. You can go wrong with either!

[–] gina@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Hyperion is my favorite of the two, but I don’t think you could go wrong with either. If you are interested in audiobooks there is one for Dune that is very good.

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] 8778386@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Dune. And it’s not even close.

[–] RootAccess@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

Dune, but both are excellent.

Here are some of my subjective rankings:

Foundation is the front runner of "Epic" sci-fi, by far. It's relatively easy to follow. Some of the individual stories are memorable, and a few are less memorable when compared to the others. Foundation is my favourite sci-fi series of all time.

Dune is epic when compared to any series apart from Foundation. The earlier books are more memorable, but the later books are still excellent. I prefer the more nuanced political plots in Dune compared to Foundation.

Hyperion is more about some top-tier stories that spill over in to epicness. Some of these stories are more memorable to me than the individual stories in Foundation and Dune. Political intrigue is developed later and isn't as central to the overall plots.

Whichever you pick you win.

[–] sci@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

both are a must read but Dune is my favorite by far

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Just keep in mind that they're very different books. You might not even like both of them - personally, I really struggled to get through Hyperion, but Dune is an all time favorite.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The first Dune book is amazing. The last book has some interesting philosophical ideas but is pretty over the top.

I read the middle books and they're not great tbh.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm hyped to see Dune pt 2 when it comes out, and it's more enjoyable to read the book beforehand to me. You know the deeper lore and appreciate the movie director's take on the book.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just out of curiosity, when you say Foundation universe do you also mean his Empire and Robots books? Because if not, I'd get on that before I move on to anything non-Asimov.

[–] cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, I mean Empire and Robots books too.

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[–] excel@lemmy.megumin.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Skip both and read Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson instead

[–] snowyday@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Read the first chapter here and fall in love with our protagonist

https://genius.com/Neal-stephenson-snow-crash-chapter-one-annotated

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