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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 144 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Go for it. I'd love to see the RNC pay all of Trump's fees. Before a dime goes into marketing a single candidate, make sure this paragon of Americanism is protected. Nothing is more important than pouring money into this sinkhole.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

I adamantly agree with this statemen. This is the best idea the RNC could ever have.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm in disagreement. I may be naive but I still believe the Republican Party needs to separate itself from Trump.

Sure, I'd love to see the Republican Party crumble; but because the people, independently and democratically, acknowledge its failure to govern and uphold American ideals.

By supporting the party's funding of Trump's legal fees, you're supporting the idea that his court cases are "political persecution". And I mean, aren't we talking about the party of Personal Responsibility?

I think the RNC should be putting money towards a viable alternative. The RNC should be joining the DNC in fighting the MAGA party. Shit, the DNC should be putting out money for a viable alternative right now too. The power and corruption these two committees hold undemocratic and destructive. Which brings me to my soapbox chant for Ranked Choice Voting.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I can't fix what's broken with the Republican party. But I'd be happy to quicken it's demise so that a more sensible conservative party might emerge. I'm not a Democrat by ideology - at least I don't agree with them in all cases, but it feel obligated to oppose the current Republican party at every level.

I like having choices at the ballot box and right now I feel I have none. Excise the tumor so that it can become healthy.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

But I'd be happy to quicken it's demise so that a more sensible conservative party might emerge.

I might be pessimistic, but I don't see the sensible part of the party coming out on top in that fight. They've lost ground every step so far.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

perhaps, but why? Why do all the sensible people have to lose to the fucking insane?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 10 points 9 months ago

Something is clearly broken with America, and everyone who isnt an insufferable policy wonk all know that it's the neoliberal system we have organized around that is the problem.

The divide comes because conservative elements cannot accept that free market capitalism has failed at improving life for anyone but the ultra-wealthy, so they blame undesirables and minority boogiemen because they have been conditioned to beleive that socialism will lead to bread lines and technological stagnation. Fascism is capitalism's last ditch effort to save itself.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago

Because of first-past-the-post primaries.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Probably because in that party, anyone with a modicum of rational thought and who is not driven by emotional drivers (like racism and dreams of a xtian caliphate) is a very tiny minority. Sure, there might be a few left who are just there for the tax cuts and the corporate handouts; they are probably the elitist thought leaders and/or the donor class funding the movement/party.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know what a sensible conservative party that /isn't/ where the Democratic Party is already at would look like, TBH. So many in the party already adheres - even still - to neoliberal orthodoxy on matters economic.

I'm almost exactly the opposite - I'd love to have a serious alternative to the left of the Democratic Party and the end of the Republican Party. Both parties have gone to the right; leaving the progressive majority of Americans (on the issues) out in the cold. Money in politics ruins everything and of course, only the donors really get the policy they want.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The cons always were MAGA. For as long as I can remember. Sure, they put a nice veneer on it that /mostly/ held, although the ugliness of things would shine through in the words/deeds of Nixon, Raygun, Bush the Lesser, etc. And never mind their unholy rhetoric on their hate radio and Faux.

The Republican Party is full of Republicans. That means they are maga and trying to somehow tease these unicorn "principled conservatives" who aren't primarily just motivated by racism and/or dreams of theocracy out from the con movement is going to be a fool's errand. They are probably 10% or less of the con movement, possibly less. The rest is all racism/white nationalists and/or xtian talibangelical types; i.e., "maga".

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Spending money on orange Jesus’ legal expenses instead of elections is a great way to build a wall and have the true believers pay for it. This is the fastest way to disconnect that cult leader and reset the party

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying we can separate the idiots from their money AND guarantee none of that money goes to GOP campaigning?

Sounds like a good deal to me.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if the justice system worked and he was declared an enemy of the state as attempting to steal the presidency should be a crime against the state.

Paying any legal fees would be considered giving aid to an enemy of the state. Aka, an act of treason

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Even more of a reason for them to give him money, the more of them locked up the better.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
[–] stinerman@midwest.social 22 points 9 months ago

You've understated how much the RNC will simply become a Trump-family slush fund. Otherwise I think you're spot on.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does it matter that the GOP donors will pay his legal fees? That just means less money to campaign.

Im not sure it should be legal though. I am no longer a democrat so I have nothing on the line, but I'd still be frustrated if Biden was using DNC funds for personal shit

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She's right, I definitely want to see the RNC piss it's money away on a massive loser.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I'm voting for the destruction of the GOP, is that close enough?

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

This may be the one and only time I can say I whole heartedly agree with a trump. Milk the coffers baby, milk 'em dry!

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

I mean go ahead. Let Trump empty their coffers, so they can't run the next election either. Just sounds like Republicans screwing each other, so I'm all for it.

[–] HorreC@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

Well you know there is a way to find that out for sure, a vote of all members. And then we will see him tank not only himself, his children, all the businesses he has touched, But also the RNC!

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 25 points 9 months ago

No, please don't. I'm just a teary-eyed snowflake liberal and if they did this, it would just devastate me.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

I'd like to see them do that too.

Please do that.

Drain the entire war chest.

Not a single dollar for ad buys anywhere in the country.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You know what happens next...

Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker were fucking pikers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It always pissed me off that Tammy Faye got her image rehabilitated just because she became an ally for queer people. Don't get me wrong, queer people need as many allies as they can get, but what about everything else? I remember that fucker crying on camera about how terribly her poor, poor husband was being treated.

I mean you can watch the Nightline interview where she starts bawling about her husband's so-called mistreatment. It's on YouTube.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd never heard of them, what the fuck is this shit?! "A little bit slid under the tire of his car."

Mother fucker ran a child over.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And he's still around and still grifting.

He's been selling "survival buckets" of so-called food as part of the ministry he's still allowed to have somehow for over a decade now.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/12/03/456677535/apocalypse-chow-we-tried-televangelist-jim-bakkers-survival-food

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While it would be great to bleed the RNC dry, part of the problem is how much free publicity the media gives this guy.

In 2020, they gave him a ridiculous amount of free attention.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It doesn't matter. Minds were made up long ago on Trump himself, it's even literally a rematch.

Trump can drain the RNC dry, with any luck they lose Congress seats by being outspent.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Yeah, and she's an unemotional objective observer on the matter.

😂 😆

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

The only voters who don't want that are the GOP mega donors.

Everyone else seems to be on board, I'll even bring the shovels and protective gear. Chucking all that cash into the furnace is going to be hottttt.

[–] brazos01@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 9 months ago

Nothing but the most extreme grifting will suffice.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Yes, let the grift reach it's climax so we can laugh at it for the foreseeable future.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Problem with people like Trump is having all the nepo babies filling up the space where actually interesting people would have stories.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Imagine that every time there was a news story about any member of that family, that instead we got to see literally anything else?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

It's not a legitimate org or party, doesn't matter who runs it, still needs to be dismantled and worst offenders held accountable.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Many Trump supporters want that.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


But she said she thought the idea would get broad support among GOP voters who see his legal cases as political persecution.

In addition to the millions he is spending on lawyers, Trump’s legal debts now top half a billion dollars.

That did not stop him last week from publicly calling to remove the RNC’s current leaders and suggest Lara Trump should serve as co-chair.

She told reporters on Wednesday that GOP voters will feel more trust in the RNC by having a Trump family member installed in leadership.

Those causes were electing Trump president in November, growing the Republican majority in the House with “patriots, America first candidates” and winning back control of the Senate, she said.

Lara Trump said if she is made co-chair of the RNC, her loyalty would be to her father-in-law, but she believed the organization would stick to its policy of staying neutral in primary contests, saying, “I don’t know why we would change course on that now.”


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