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I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync's developer, Lemmy's developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!

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[–] spaxxor@lemmy.world 150 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's how things should work honestly. Those that can chip in, should. A beer every so often goes a long way. It's honestly something I barely notice in my finances too. This time it goes to something I believe in instead of a twitch sub lol.

[–] Feugnis@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Don't get me started on twitch subs. Supporting a creator you like is fine, but spending 100s of dollars on gift subs is so stupid.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Twitch looking at their top creators leaving for other platforms.

Increasing our revenue share, unilaterally, should fix this.

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[–] remotelove@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep! The developer of Connect for Lemmy is getting caffeinated on a regular basis by me. It's a perfect fit for the RIF gap in my heart. ;)

He/She(?) is doing an awesome job and it's amazing how far this app has come in just a few short weeks. I am trying to keep the dev motivated as much as possible, for sure!

My only gripe is that it's not open source, but that is OK.

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[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm sure that everyone who was raging at Sync over the last few days, stating that all software should be FOSS have all made significant contributions to the Lemmy devs.

FOSS is pretty bloody great, and one of the greatest things about the modern IT industry. But FOSS doesn't pay a mortgage.

To be clear: I have contributed to Lemmy, and will likely pay a lifetime fee for Sync sooner or later.

[–] AzuleBlade@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

I installed Sync, threw $16 LJ's way for putting in the work to convert it to work with Lemmy, and then uninstalled lol (commenting from Thunder). I plan on continuing to use FOSS clients for Fediverse stuff, but am happy there's a healthy variety of open and closed source clients for everyone to pick and choose from.

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[–] leraje@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

OP: Please try and support instance admins and Lemmy devs

Sync fans in the comments: Yes, I bought Sync and love it

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[–] CapnAssHolo@sh.itjust.works 75 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Y'all just seething bc others are enjoying things. This is just cringe. This is not a zero sum game. You can donate to lemmy devs/instance devs/fav. app devs and whatever else you like too.

And let's not pretend this is new. You could see a lot of memmy users being excited about their app too. I don't know what the hell they are talking about. But I'm glad they have an app they like that much.

Just. Let. People. Enjoy. Things.

[–] esty@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

i dont think theres anything wrong with sync enjoyers loving their app but i have to agree that the iap money would be better spent on actually keeping instances alive

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[–] Blazingflames6073@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Sync dev wanting something worth for the all the work they're doing is fine imo. You can tell he put a lot of effort into the app.

The sync cult however seem to be as annoying as they were on reddit. They are like this when we discuss anything about sync's pricing even on non sync communities.

"I'm so happy I can buy sync again"

"Sync is the best"

"No other 3PA can compare to it in my experience"

This is one of the few times I feel like "nobody asked" applies.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Conversely, all the memes trying to shit on sync by people who never used it or even tried it, who asked?

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

right? "sync users never shut up"

meanwhile my feed:

edit: and three posts down:

we get it you don't like sync, I'm just trying to find content in an app i enjoy 🤷‍♂️

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[–] papaya@possumpat.io 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Personally I find both sides a bit grating, but moreso the anti-Sync crowd lol.

I used Sync for Reddit and paid for lifetime, but after a while I found that I liked Infinity better, so I switched. I'm now using Infinity for Lemmy and probably won't use Sync for Lemmy, but people who are using Sync (and paid for it)? Good for them. No need to tell them, "Haha you're a sucker for paying for something when there are free alternatives!!", you lose absolutely nothing by other people using Sync or other proprietary apps.

Let people use what they want, jfc.

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[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 27 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Damn these people being happy their favorite app is on Lemmy.

Seriously why do you care ?

Also, the reality is not that the sync cult is too vocal it's that they represent a solid chunk of the overall user base.

And also the fact that on Lemmy there is not much content as of now so minor things can become events.

I'm a bit salty about sync's pricing especially because I already bought the ads removal when sync was on reddit. And I feel like this is not a new code base so I should at least get a minor discount.

There are all kinds of sync users, stop oversimplifying things and spreading stereotypes. Just let people enjoy their few days of being happy they can browse Lemmy in their comfort zone.

The sync cult however seem to be as annoying as they were on reddit.

This is very weird for me because I was very active on reddit for many years and was subscribed to the android and sync subreddits. Barely ever seen any comments or posts about sync. If you had a lot of interaction about sync on reddit, I have to believe it's because you were looking for that type of content. Or maybe you had a very narrow selection of subreddits. I don't know.

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[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I agree, some of these users in Sync threads are just straight up fucking annoying. Not even with their opinions that Sync is the best, that's inconsequential in my opinion and fine, but I've had to stand up to a few really ignorant and a couple of really dumb takes regarding FOSS recently. I'm a FOSS advocate, but I believe in using the best tool/app/option firstly and I generally avoid recommendations unless they are sought after, but I just can't stand by when inaccuracies and hypocritical takes are being thrown around regarding FOSS.

I had someone essentially arguing for security through obscurity with this comment recently:

FOSS brings a whole lotta good - and more good than bad - but it’s also pretty damn vulnerable because a bad actor could just look at the source code and then figure out what exploits and vulnerabilities a FOSS app might have.

Another user with another bad take:

Why would I invest my time and energy into a FOSS app that may go defunct in a year or two, when I can just install an app that does the same thing, looks nicer, does more, is easier to use, and has the backing of a company that is likely going to stick around for a while?

Like hello? That proprietary app just got killed by a proprietary platform, and was saved by a FOSS platform. And backing of a company? Also might want to check out killedbygoogle.com

With that said, Sync is really polished, it's been in development for a long time now so it's going to have that advantage over other clients. It has by far the most customization I've tried, which I absolutely love, and it runs smoothly. Right now it has a major glitch with comment sorting by top, but once that is fixed, then it is worth $20 for ad-free. And annoying Sync users aside, that's how I feel about Sync.

I also support Jerboa, and have sent them money. And in all honestly, even though Jerboa doesn't have the customization that Sync has right now, it runs just as smoothly and the defaults align with my wants and needs so it doesn't need the extra customization for me personally. When Jerboa adds a default comment sorting option, it's going to be my preferred client.

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[–] Oddbin@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't subscribe as a rule these days.Subscription fatigue is a real thing but I do make one time payments to regularly used services or apps across the year. I guess it's like tipping in that respect, I do it when I feel I should.

For Sync, the subscription seemed steep for an app for a platform I'm still only starting to use and don't use anywhere near Reddit levels (by design I might add) plus the one time payment seems similarly steep. I bought the pro for Reddit about 2 years before Reddit went full ham and was ready to spend the £8 of Google credit I have on it again if it turned out I used it/lemmy more than I do.

The issue I found is that feeding that back on anything like this hit the cult wall and you just get a lot of angry posting about you being cheap or just use the ads etc. Hell, you can see the same posts even in this thread which is only tangentially related to that whole quagmire. I had hoped that lemmy would be less vitriolic and more discussion based even on these kinds of things but I guess people are just tribalistic regardless.

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[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 47 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Good bloody grief! How did a reminder to support Lemmy devs and hosts get hijacked by Sync fans? Sync is a completely different topic.

[–] Feugnis@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, maybe shouldn't have mentioned sync in my post. I was just doing as a joke though.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It’s a fine segue. I’m just surprised at how many people jumped at the chance to talk about a different topic and ignore your actual message.

Thanks for the reminder, BTW. As soon as I find a permanent home, I’ll add them to the donations list.

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[–] SaltyLemon@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah. If you got 100$ to spare you should be giving it lemmy instead of sync.

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The difference is that some users have been using sync for a decade and using Lemmy for only a month. So it's a lot easier to mentally justify supporting a developer who you've been benefiting from for so long.

I have also donated to my local instance, I really hope to see it all grow together.

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[–] Rac3r4Life@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Personally, I think the app is absolutely fine without paying for the subscription. I really don't see too many ads. I get an average of one ad for every two refreshes of the feed when scrolling through, and none of them have been obtrusive. It's certainly night and day when compared to the ads in the official Reddit app.

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[–] gk99@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The people who develop lemmy get paid to do so, as stated by iirc Dessalines themselves.

I would put donating to those running instances at the highest priority, because without servers, we have nothing.

[–] leraje@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

That grant is coming to an end, if it hasn't already.

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[–] raptir@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my biggest problem with it. I have no issue with Sync charging. I have an issue with Sync charging and not passing anything on to the developers of Lemmy.

[–] gd42@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think lemmy instances should be able to charge for API acce... wait a minute

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's nothing wrong with charging for API access if the price is reasonable. Reddit was intentionally unreasonable to kill off 3rd party traffic. In 2022, the avg reddit user brought in $0.72 USD per year. If they charged just $1/yr, they'd increase their profit!

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[–] skookumasfrig@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My instance's owner has a Patreon. I give there. I definitely recommend that others do the same.

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[–] MaxMouseOCX@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Is it just me or does Sync's pricing seem... Exorbitantly high?

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The person that runs my home instance appears to be from Ohio, I don't think I can sanction that buffoonery. /s

I'll kick some money towards them once I get bills for the month sorted.

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[–] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
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