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It was a many months transition, and it's finally done

Fun thing, you can actually make a backup of all* your messages, groups, contacts, etc. So before leaving you can have all of your data in case you need that one contact or something

The final red flag was as that allegedly Russian authorities were messing with people's deleted messages. Not for the first time there are news that they could read, modify, delete, see location, and etc. Screw it, this is unsafe, I'm out.

Also, these days telegram is really at the state of a pile of garbage, bloated, buggy, and shady messenger.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What happened with Telegram? I'm unfamiliar with those particular rumors.

... But also definitely not a fan of it in general. Their app has had terrible encryption (when it's even used) for a long time.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

There have been rumors from its start. I have no idea of their validity. Like anything, it's hard to find the truth.

As for its encryption, while I dislike it's not open source, and it's deserving of some criticism, there have been no reported cracks of it that I'm aware.

That said, it seems to store your ~~public~~ private key on the server (though I'm not sure of this), which is not ideal, for sure.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

The "no reported cracks" thing is a red herring. You can make an intentionally broken cryptography system and claim it's unbroken too.

And even if it was sound, it doesn't really matter because the messages are decrypted by the server for all desktop and group chats, and probably most one-on-one chats too.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago

There has been multiple breaks, like the good old 2^64 bruteforce attack when they used too short session identifiers, malleability issues that could let the server/hackers change your messages, reordering attacks, etc.

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[–] ebd6a8c9051028dc1607@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

where did you moved to? i tried matrix but their android client (element) is terrible compare to telegram's.

[–] The_wild_card@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Try schildichat it seems more polished

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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Deleted the app and account recently as well. I'm hoping that having the account deleted means that people don't try to use it to message me there.

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[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Honestly, signal is the only thing I would ideally use. But whatsapp is still a better second messenger than telegram.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I didn't use WhatsApp for the last like 3 years already

I have already got rid of the Sim card, but want to setup some sip Sim cards at home for package delivery and work

So like, using WhatsApp is pretty pointless at this point

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[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

I deleted telegram long ago, but not my account, just the apps.

As of recent, I wanted to log back in and actually delete my phone number from there, so there's no more association.

I can't login. I download the app, and it sends a verification code through Telegram and won't do SMS, but I'm not logged in at all so I can't get the code.

I'm stuck there. I contacted support and they're yet to respond. :p

[–] scratchandgame@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Also, these days telegram is really at the state of a pile of garbage, bloated, buggy, and shady messenger.

Every messenger is.

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