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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

Everyone is talking about tradition and racism and everything

But there's one more point to note: alcohol prohibition is much harder to enforce. You can easily make simple alcoholic beverages out of what's already on your kitchen, and it's not that someone will constantly monitor whatcha doin' there (and even if you would, should you take someone accountable for grape juice going funny?)

As a result, home brewing emerges, creating much more dangerous products that are not subject to quality control standards enforced on factories. People still drink alcohol, but this time it gets bundled with a suite of dangerous chemicals produced in an uncontrolled brewing process.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I mean, it's pretty easy to grow a plant in your house too...easier, probably, than managing everything necessary to ensure safe brewing or distilling.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

During prohibition grape (formerly wine) producers sold grape juice with the warning label "don't store in a cool dark place for multiple weeks or this product may become illegal". (or something to that effect) You can do much the same with any grain or fruit.

For Marijuana you have to at least get seeds/the plant first, which are now a controlled product. Yeah it'll grow anywhere (hence "weed"), but you still have to source it and plant it somewhere with sunlight.

Brewing at scale and/or for a specific product is difficult, making alcohol is easy.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

If you pick the right strain of weed it can pretty much grow anywhere outside. Your point still stands if we factor in that you don't need a warrant to search someone's house for weed in the back yard.

Indoors is also pretty easy but the main difference is that alcohol doesn't have a strong smell so it's much less risky.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

To add to what others have said, white sheriffs in Texas popularized the term Marijuana in the English lexicon, as an intentional strategy to Mexicanize cannabis use, which they thought would cause communism or something.

[–] SloppySol@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (8 children)

One makes you think less, and one makes you think more haha

[–] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

One has also had studies that shows it causes the user to have more empathy while under its influence. The other is more common in domestic violence.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago
[–] amio@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Because what is legal and not does not involve all that much logic.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

As others have already stated, racism and conservative nonsense is the answer.

But I also think drinks are part of food culture in a way other drugs aren't - generally when I have a drink I try to stop well short of intoxication, I want it as part of a meal. And smoking anything is bad for you - my ex wrecked his teeth smoking pot. I do certainly think it should be widely legal, and people always have and always will want mind altering substances, they need to be allowed and the harm managed as medical/social not by prohibition but it's not like pot is absolutely benign even if it is way less likely to produce violence.

because we already made it illegal, and we saw what happened. Weed is just the natural successor to that.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think a big reason alcohol is still legal is that making it is so easy I've done it by accident a few times with a bottle of soda under my bed. (No, I didn't drink it.)

Because it's so easy and relatively cheap to make from ingredients that are basically impossible to ban - yeast spores are floating around in the air, and carbohydrates and water are necessary for human life - there's no way to keep it from being produced.

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