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Tech workers react to UPS drivers landing a $170,000 a year package with a mixture of anger and admiration::Some tech workers questioned whether UPS drivers deserved high pay — others jumped in to note the importance of the jobs and harsh working conditions.

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The way this reads to me: “Some tech workers [who have never had a hard, physical job but also want their packages delivered in one day] questioned…”

[–] TokyoCalling@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Hopefully, the mixture is 1% anger to 99% admiration. And that they are inspired to demand more for their labor as well.

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hmmm Dev bros, what we do now?

[–] AgentCorgi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Grind leetcode!

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oh... Cool... We get it - So you're saying fuck the bosses, right?

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As a union electrician that's not $170k on the check. They still making like $95k a year but have benifits paid into the package. Medical, pension, 401k, etc.

[–] Squander@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

UPS drivers currently make an average of about $95,000 a year with an additional $50,000 in benefits. - That is news to me.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in that blind post and it was dumb. Why complain that someone else is getting more money. It's not a competition. Everyone deserves a good life

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What’s even more dumb is business insider making a story about it.

[–] JTode@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Headline should read "Corporate Magazine Attempts to Stoke Up Some Of That Old Anti-Labour Heat From The 80s."

[–] Bobert@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worked in Ed-Tech making less than teachers while at the same time seeing that when the network went down so did the majority of teachers' ability to teach. Didn't make me mad that the person with a Masters made more than the person with an A+. Also spoke to a former tech who, in six years, went from making less than I did in the same position to making over $300k a year.

If you want it, it's out there. You want UPS driver pay? You want to put yourself in one of the more dangerous jobs and do physical labor? You want CISO pay? You want to forego intimate relationships and free time? You want Ed-Tech Technician pay? You want to sit in an air conditioned office, answer printer and smart board tickets and goof off for half of every day?

[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

High paying tech jobs are out there yeah but you gotta be an SME and own a solution which really involves in my POV knowing programming, some backend, networking and infrastructure. Tech work is so vast people only really master one thing. Tech workers are notoriously lazy as well, soon as people get a "cushy" job it's like pulling teeth trying to get them to learn a new skill. Can't tell you the amount of times I've tried to teach old school network guys some devops stuff and they say something like "I don't want to have to learn programming" and when I tell them it's really not as complicated as they think they have some other excuse locked and loaded

[–] Bobert@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Tech field does encourage laziness in certain specializations. Networking is notorious for it because once it's up and configured properly you should be able to sit back and relax. For the most part it will run itself when set up correctly. And you pay for that downtime by not getting paid as much.

CyberSecurity is absolutely booming right now, and those dudes are making a mint. Why? Cause they're going to run around like beheaded chickens more times than not with the pace that attacks are happening. What's that do for their salary? Shoots it through the roof.

Just because your job is business critical doesn't mean you deserve as much as someone else who's doing business critical work. How much work are you doing to maintain the business is the real question, and like I said above, proper Networks should not require tons of intervention. Security solutions, however, do.

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[–] mayo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The port workers in Vancouver BC also just landed a good deal after striking for a little bit.

I can imagine that UPS drivers would have a lot of leverage since UPS would suffer massively if they couldn't deliver packages.

Westjet union also struck a new deal recently. I think it was something like 30% increase, captains making in neighbourhood of 300k.

I'm definitely very interested in joining a labour union for my next job. Tech workers should be looking to unionize.

I'm not sure tech workers could do UPS jobs or UPS workers could do tech jobs. Different types of people. I think some of the frustration could come from the fact that one requires advanced education. Ideally we're all paid 'enough' and then some are paid more/less depending on skill. Tech workers on average might be better, but it's still not enough in high COLAs to live in comfortable apartment and raise a family without stressing about money.

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
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