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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 91 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Anything beyond ncurses is a crutch for the weak and corrupting the youth.

[–] fayoh@sopuli.xyz 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Upon changing ticket system at work, one of the graybeards asked about apis and cli access because "real men don't click"

[–] jadero@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

Then I must be among the manliest of men. :)

I learned all the different ways to use the keyboard in Windows and never looked back. The best of both worlds, although relearning everything now that I've switched to Linux is proving a challenge. I'm starting to think that the Linux GUIs don't have true keyboard accessibility.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago
[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

ncurses is bloat

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago

Where my turbo vision peeps at?

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

Sorry, I like my curses restricted and old skool

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Every time I take a look at collections of user created themes for anything, I am reminded why design is a profession.

Not trying to shame anyone, I've been an enjoyer of custom themes ever since I started using Linux, but you need to have at the very least a little contrast in your theme. That's kinda where this conversation begins :D

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

User themes having poor contrast and inconsistencies is why I stick to stock themes, made by UX/UI designers who work directly with the developers.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I really don't care about my OS UI since I'm barely actually using it, especially after a few minutes setting up one-click actions. Less than 1% of my time and effort on the computer.

Applications, on the other hand, is where I live and FUCKING HELL!!!

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Look, if everyone just decided on a style and everyone went with it within a system I'd be okay with that. It's not great but at least it wouldn't be jarring.

But having to live by the whim of 50 different app designers is disgusting. I just want to have a good time, not learn 50 different interfaces.

Though my thoughts on it would also stifle new ideas. So that's bad.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's like getting into a car you haven't driven before and you hit the wipers instead of the indicator ×1000. Or playing an FPS and E is now F, C is now Ctrl, X is Shift, and you tap+hold instead of tap. WHY?!?! You can remap, but suddenly there's conflicting keys for shit the tutorial hasn't even introduced to you yet, so you don't know what you can or can't get away with.

Some designer or dev has a personal opinion they think is better than everything else and now we all gotta live with it on the hopes that'll be the new standard. And there's so many of those arseholes and their DVORAK layouts and putting "Cancel" on the left and "Confirm" on the right of a dialogue popup. "I think it's better this way and the world will thank my big brain!"

YES I'm ranting, lol.

[–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait confirm shouldn't be on the right? Like I am 99% sure most windows pop-up/modal Dialogs had ok on the left and cancel on the right but I am not entirely sure about Linux (also factorio has them left to right as in "go back and go forward" but I dunno if that is RTL dependent...)

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, no, they have to be on top of each other! Vertically aligned is the way of the future.

[–] jak2k@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Try GNOME/GTK/adwaita apps. They are very consistent.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The GTK file chooser is probably the worst AND most inconsistent example of UX that I've ever seen

[–] jak2k@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Contribute! Maybe you get a part of the 1 million Euro they got from the Sovereign Tech Fund.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Contribute with UX changes? To GNOME maintained software?

[–] jak2k@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Enhancement? No, everything I have a problem with is explicitly intended behavior and GNOME devs are infamous for their everyone is stupid except me mentality

Edit, found a neat lil' example:

Does Gnome/GTK have an issue board where users vote on issues?

Free software development is not a democracy, and does not get driven by polls. Features and bugs are introduced by those who show up, within a community that works towards a shared goal.

I don't believe the intentional behavior is desirable and would like to see what other users think.

That's not how anything works.

[–] pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's a dick way of saying fuck off but I mean they do provide a free service. If they have a vision and don't want to deal with random people whining about it that's their prerogative. Same as yours to find that utterly insufferable.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They do provide a free service (GTK's file chooser), one that I find horrible and inconsistent (as per the thread) and intentionally so (on issues tangential to example that I found, although the proposed configurable behavior would be nice) - so I won't even entertain the thought of trying and contributing to it, as it has been suggested.

I don't know what is insufferable about that, other than the initial criticism...

[–] pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's your prerogative to find them insufferable is what I meant to say. Your criticism and opinions are fair enough.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

I've got to work on the fact that seeing the word "insufferable" on social media makes me instinctively get defensive ._.

[–] backhdlp@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that money is for the people employed by the GNOME Foundation, they don't just pay every contributor.

[–] jak2k@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

No, they don't, but you could get regular contributor…

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They are indeed very similar.

[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

For me, desktop UI peaked at Windows 98.

Installing the 95/98 GTK theme by B00merang is one of the first things I do after a fresh installation of Linux Mint.

I do try other themes once in a blue moon. But I soon realise it is a downgrade and revert back. The last theme I tried was the Arc theme back in mid-late 2010s.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My biggest hurtle is why i can't see files as thumbnails when picking a file to open or save. It works for file library but the file picker won't show images as thumbnails. Only a list view with tiny thumbnails that sra too small to see the actual image

[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I never found that to be a problem. In fact, I find the thumbnails distracting. But I can see it being a problem for others.

The rare occasion I work with image files, I just open it to identify, if I haven’t already named it properly.

It also helps that most of my workflows are not image-heavy.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah the thumbnail part becomes quite handy when picking pictures to edit or upload, especially when it is from a folder that mostly contains images

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone know what the origin of this meme is? I started seeing it everywhere earlier this year out of nowhere

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

stop doing science was the original