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Earlier in the pandemic many news and magazine organizations would proudly write about how working from home always actually can lead to over working and being too "productive". I am yet to collect some evidence on it but I think we remember a good amount about this.

Now after a bunch of companies want their remote workers back at the office, every one of those companies are being almost propaganda machines which do not cite sound scientific studies but cite each other and interviews with higher ups in top companies that "remote workers are less productive". This is further cementing the general public's opinion on this matter.

And research that shows the opposite is buried deep within any search results.

Have you noticed this? Please share what you have observed. I'm going paranoid about this.

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[–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I work remotely at the moment since March 2020 and I'm over it, can't stand it anymore. I'm single with no kids and work a LOT. I'll frequently wake up, work twelve hours, go to bed, never leave the house. I'm looking for jobs in my field so I can at least get out of the house, go to an office and socialize a bit with colleagues and other office tenants, get lunch at outdoor cafes etc.

I also miss learning through osmosis from overhearing colleagues discussing technical concepts I'm unfamiliar with, and teaching others similarly about things I know that they don't.

My experience working with other people all fully remotely is that it's very difficult to coordinate as a group, and individually many people are terrible communicators. This is magnified by remote work. (Pet peeve: answer the phone and turn on your fucking camera, I want to know who I'm working 80 hours a week with ffs.)

All that said I totally agree that a lot of work can and should be done at home. A hybrid approach is difficult though unless everyone is at the office and WFH at the same time. Otherwise what's the point of me being at the office while you are at home and vice versa. It's very tricky and I'm not sure how to resolve.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know if I'm necessarily more productive in the office, but I do think I prefer that vibe for a workplace. Still, I'm going to go with remote for all the other benefits. I hated commuting.

It's just different strokes for different folks.

[–] recursivesive@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a YOU problem. Why should we, WFH productive advocates, have to pay for your sins? Get therapy if you need it.

"I need to get back into commuting, which involves time and money, just so Jane Doe doesn't feel lonely, because they can't socialise on their own".

[–] YourBestFriendShane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Jeez, who pissed in your Wheaties?

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

Commercial real estate owners strike back.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My manager wanted me to come to the office daily because the laptop I had couldn't handle the company VPN (which we need to access some systems, the alternative is of course being physically in the office and connecting to the office WIFI).

He gave me some crap about it and reminded me of the 'office first' policy at my workplace.

I looked him dead in the face and said, "You can't force anyone back to the office. You know that it's not going to fly with the employees. You can try but it won't work".

He didn't look too happy about that, but he knows it's reality.

Ended up finally getting an new old laptop for the VPN issue, which some other employee left behind, because the budget was "too tight" even though I couldn't do my work efficiently. And a few days ago I was told I'd be laid off. Also because of the budget.

So hooray!

[–] Shimitar@feddit.it -1 points 1 year ago

I prefer work from office. Its better for me having kids & dogs and tons of duties at home. Work from home more than once a week is just a waste of time for me which translates to double workload or sorse when at the office.

Said that, i love WFH because i get things (real things, life things, not work things) done properly and timely... But just doping more than 1 day per week is twice as stressful for me than not.

My commute is 35km each way, so not even a short one.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It isn't propaganda to look at the real-world ramifications of this.

  1. The hard drop in commercial real estate is going to end in a lot of big loans going unpaid. Might end in some bank failures.
  2. The drop in assessed value is going to hit cities hard in the pocket as they depend a lot on these property taxes from commercial properties to pay theirs bills (social programs, subsidized public transportation, police, fire, public housing, roads, etc).
  3. It will increase sprawl as more people can now live anywhere and push into wilderness areas and we lose more open space.
  4. A lot of small businesses depend on those dense commercial areas. You'll see more contractors, restaurants, etc having to close and downtowns getting deserted like happened in the 70s as people fled to suburbs.

You see a lot of people saying "just turn them into residences!". It is very difficult and expensive to turn buildings designed as open office spaces into residences.

[–] ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But corporations have achieved very difficult things in a very short span that cost very many billions like - pivoted to AI which was very difficult until ChatGPT became popular.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Probably has a bit to do with how few people were working remote before versus now.

WFH was absolutely not a common thing for average workers per-COVID. Some did it, sure, but that was not even up for consideration for a huge percent of workers. So since businesses had really no choice, a lot of them just went along for the ride and tried it out. The media went along with it and played it up as the Next Big Thing.

But clearly many people abused the policy and aren't being as productive as they once were, so now the media is reflecting that reality and running negative stories..

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