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This is no shade against uncle dane or jontohil2, this is probably just youtube's fault

here's what shows up if I click on the video

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 49 points 7 months ago

So, this sounds like an advertisement. Shouldn’t we require these to be labeled advertisements?

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Youtube will also put videos in your feed that you can't watch because they don't exist yet. And you can't hide the nonexistent video because doing so will hide the video when it eventually does exist.

If you think things couldn't possibly get any worse, you clearly don't work for google.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Don't some creators exploit that because views count differently on premieres

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean the notifications of live streams?

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

They notify normal videos sometimes.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

God I hate that.

You go to click on it and it just says "coming soon!", but when it does come out, it is already buried in my subscriptions so I forget it was released.

Missed plenty of Death Battles because of this

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My brother said Apple News does this too— you have the optional ability to subscribe to newspapers using it, but the subscription only content shows up in your feed even if you don’t subscribe. They have an option to block particular publications from your feed as well so he tried that to omit the articles he couldn’t access, but instead of actually removing them it leaves a blank square in that space in your feed saying that you’ve blocked the content. IDK what they’re thinking.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're hoping they can annoy people into subscribing.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And yet all they did was annoy people into leaving. The only ones left are those that think they can't live without a platform.

[–] amio@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Source? Would love to believe it, but... I don't.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Source is common sense. People either get annoyed enough to leave, or are dumb and stay. Well, third option - like with YouTube - is to circumvent their bullshit somehow. But that's not possible with every platform.

[–] amio@kbin.social 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pro tip: whenever someone asks you if you have a source and you say either "common sense" or "go find out", you have just said "no I don't."

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Why would this need a source? Is this scientific material or some shit? Do I have to include source of what I write every time?

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Same unfortunate story with Google News, lots of articles that I cant actually read. On Facebook I filter out URLs that paywall their articles so the stories are hidden, but I don't use Facebook more than once a month or so and nearly every chum bucket news aggregator out there does this.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

very hush hush, but there's this app called New Pipe, available through F-droid

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NewPipe seems to be unmaintained now, use the fork Tubular instead.

[–] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Newpipe is in active development and just updated a few days ago, they just have a slow release schedule.

I use tubular and it's great, but Tubular itself is still subject to newpipe's release cycle.

Not sure why people started thinking newpipe is unmantained, this is the second time I hear it here on Lemmy

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago

Not sure why people started thinking newpipe is unmantained, this is the second time I hear it here on Lemmy

Because it has been unable to load comments and constantly shown errors for several months now.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Google copied the ability to download multiple apps at the same time from F-droid. They're scared.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Copied what? The ability to multidoulwnload? Like what's been in Chrome for... forever? Of Firefox.. Or Internet Explorer.....Or BitTorrent?

Don't get all high and mighty acting like F-droid invented the concept.

[–] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Play store is preinstalled on billions of devices, F-Droid is only used by a bunch of (very based) nerds.

Google is most definitely not scared of F-Droid

[–] amio@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago

The videos being paid is not YT's choice, the channel owner must've set that specifically on those ranks for those videos.

Being visible despite being unavailable, seen 4149743 times before, plain crap, obvious junk with 45 views on a 2 sub channel, already specifically hidden, already specifically blocked, etc. etc etc etc etc... those are definitely Youtube though.

BlockTube may have a feature for this, it addresses some of those other cases. Or you could potentially hack together a uBlock rule for it ("any video on the front page that has this stupid price tag thing")

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

uh this might get me hate but this is a rare instance of youtube doing its job and doing it well.

members videos are basically like patreon but directly on youtube. members who choose to fund a channel get ad-free and exclusive content on top of the knowledge their money/attention is going directly towards their favorite creator and not some random advertiser.

and youtube is doing its job by advertising this content. it would be a failure of a service if it kept these videos a secret.

“but it’s annoying”

it says “members only” right there. just don’t click it and learn to accept that the creators you enjoy need to make a living somehow.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

the knowledge that their money is going directly towards their favourite creator and not some random advertiser.

The advertisers aren't getting money by showing you ads unless you buy something, unless you mean YouTube which I think still takes a cut. Also I've been getting 'recommendations' for videos like those from channels I haven't even subscribed to so it's almost certainly not my favourite creator they're trying to get me to throw money at.

The YouTube main page is already usually about 16-20% ads (although every now and then it's less) I don't like having even fewer serious recommendations.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

edited to fix my second paragraph, thank you

[–] Lolman228@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

It's working perfectly fine for me, and I haven't paid youtube a cent

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I mean…. By now I really don’t think anyone can genuinely be surprised by anything because it’s clear Google and other companies like them (dominating cyberspace related) are just constantly trying to become more and more insidious.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago

YT members is such a sucky program. 30% of the money goes to Google, which is ridiculous. Only 8% goes to Patreon.

[–] quenpwn@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Alto@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Its basically patreon built into youtube

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except YouTube takes a 4x cut compared to Patreon lol

[–] Alto@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Never said it was good

[–] quenpwn@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Only a matter of time until OF type content

[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 3 points 7 months ago

Thats an enourmous leap in logic my man, what

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I wish. That's not gonna happen.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 months ago

that sounds like an interesting conversation, really