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Despite Bill Barr’s repeatedly voicing concerns about Donald Trump, he has now said he will vote for him again this November

Bill Barr has claimed Donald Trump often suggested executing his political rivals during heated moments of his four-year tenure in the White House.

Former White House communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin told The View back in December that Mr Trump once called for a staff member to be put to death for leaking a story about the then-president going down to a bunker during Black Lives Matter protests in summer 2020.

Former Trump administration attorney general Mr Barr was asked about the claims during an interview on CNN last week.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 333 points 7 months ago (5 children)

"Trump's as bad as people are afraid he is, but I could never compromise my values so much that I'd vote for a centre right neoliberal."

Anyone who feels this way is an actual nazi

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 82 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that all the people inside the right-wing media bubble don't know he's as bad as people are afraid he is. Because they're regularly lied to.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 82 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I feel like I've said this before, but maybe letting right wing billionaires own all the major media outlets was a bit of an oopsie.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

what I would not give to have 70's style regulation again, of course getting rid of citizens united would be bigger but owe man I hate the direct we have taken since the 80's

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 67 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The older I get, the more I realize just how much I hate Ronald fucking Reagan.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 35 points 7 months ago

yup. it reminds me a bit of nixon. growing up I understood he was bad but boy how rabidly upset he would make folks older than I. I did not get it but then I learned more and more about his actions and understood over time. Reagan same but experienced it. One thing is you don't even know the real bad stuff till its to late. People still don't seem to understand iran contra or the october surprise. effed up. now we just had trump. can you imagine the stuff we don't know yet. ugh.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Reagans fucked this country like Hollywood fucked Nancy's mouthhole.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He’s also the one who set the precedent in 1986 of support in the Israel-Iran proxy conflict that we’re protesting today.

He did that after supplying Iran with arms in the Iran-Contra scandal.

Prior to that, he removed foreign aid from Israel, and then supplied military aid under specific agreement that they use it to invade Lebanon and attack Hezbollah.

He put this shit pot on the stove and started stirring.

[–] DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"Fun" fact: Those two things are connected! Without the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine by Reagan's FCC in 1987, the group called Citizens United would likely not have been able to form in 1988, as they would have been required to provide opposing viewpoints when they expressed their terrible views on national tv or radio networks.

Additional fun fact: Rush Limbaugh's nationally syndicated radio show (which began in 1988) also would not have been possible without the repeal of the fairness doctrine.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're a lost cause - but apathetic left wing voters need to hear that message.

Our democracy may simply end if Trump is reelected.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Those Germans who would do anything, be anything, join anything to stop Bolshevism had, in the end, to be Nazis. And Nazism did stop Bolshevism. How it stopped Bolshevism, with what means and what consequences, did not matter—not enough, at least, to alienate them. None of its shortcomings, mild or hideous, none of its contradictions, small or calamitous, ever swayed them. To them, then and now, Nazism kept its promise.

-They Thought They Were Free, The Germans 1933-45

Fascism is always a right-wing reactionary movement against leftists.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

Fascism is always a right-wing reactionary movement against leftists.

Except, in the U.S. our fascists don't have any real Bolsheviks to stop, so they have to pretend that the center-right conservatives are actually Bolsheviks.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Is anyone surprised that Bill Barr is an actual nazi?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Whatever you do, never question what J. Edgar Hoover's COINTELPRO division was up to during the serial murder of black civil rights leaders in the 1960s. Don't question how similar disappearances and slayings occurred during Iraq War protests, the BLM protests, and appear to be happening again during the Palestine protests. Ignore the LA Sheriff's Gangs that operate independently of city government and the mass privatization of police forces in Detroit, Miami, and Atlanta. Don't google who Allen Dulles was or what he spent his career doing (and definitely don't question where he was or what he was doing in November of 1963). Don't ask who Bill Barr's dad is or question why he hired a a very young, very unqualified Jeffrey Epstein to teach at one of the most elite private schools in the country.

Don't ask what the 1994 Crime Bill had to do with the rise in mass incarceration. Don't ask who sponsored that bill. Don't question who wrote large sections of the Patriot Act and lobbied for their passage even before 9/11. Don't think about PRISM or question how the US Congress responded to its outing.

Just fixate on the Big Cheeto who wants to be back in the White House.

Our status as a fascist nation has nothing to do with our long history of police brutality and state surveillance. It has nothing to do with the structure of business or the anti-democratic judicial and senatorial systems that decide our laws. It certainly has nothing to do with the Military Industrial Complex and the continuous need for cheap labor at home and abroad.

Its just this one weird guy who might return to the White House. Everything else is fine.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 141 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (37 children)

“He would say things similar to that on occasions to blow off steam. But I wouldn’t take them literally every time he did it,” Mr Barr said, adding: “At the end of the day, it wouldn’t be carried out and you could talk sense into him.”

So either we're counting on people to refuse the president's orders, or we're hoping the Trump is more mature than he lets on?

How about not electing people who would even entertain such an idea in the first place?

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How about not electing people who would even entertain such an idea in the first place?

The people who vote for Trump vote for him because he would entertain such an idea &/or they are deluded enough to think they're not on his list.

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[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thank goodness there isn't a publicly accessible, written version of a plan to replace everyone with sycophants right here: www dot project2025 dot org

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[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that he gets so angry that this is his go to proves he’s not mature enough, so people will need to rely on those to oppose those wishes.

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[–] DefiantBidet@lemmy.world 129 points 7 months ago (3 children)

and yet when pressed, "the Biden administration's liberal agenda" is worse than anything - ANYTHING - Trump ever did.

fucking shill.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The worst part about this, besides all the other parts, is that the Biden administration is defending against this, like "Nuh-uh, We don't even have a liberal agenda!"

I wish Biden was the progressive that conservatives pretend he is.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

I vote for the party that wants to protect abortion rights. It would take quite a lot for me to vote for any anti-abortion Republican. I think Trump-level disrespect for democracy from the hypothetical Democrat would be enough to change my vote, but I'm not sure some people I know would vote for the Republican even then. Would expecting Republicans to vote for Biden be a double standard in this context?

(What this doesn't explain is why Trump was so overwhelmingly popular in the primaries.)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

My dad used to say, and this was back in the Bush era, that the wort Democrat was better than the best Republican, and I still can't argue with that.

[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 11 points 7 months ago

the [worst] Democrat [is] better than the best Republican

That's generally true, but not in the hypothetical. I'd honestly vote for Mitt Romney before I'd vote for hypothetical Democrat-Ticket Trump.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 71 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Then, endorsed him for president.
Is he really dumb enough to not realize he's going to be on the list if Trump gets re-elected?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 45 points 7 months ago
  1. Go on TV talking shit about the guy who wants to kill adversaries.

  2. Vote for that guy anyway

  3. Pikachu skull & crossbones

[–] frezik@midwest.social 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the guy who wanted the Imperial Presidency, where the President is practically a king. Instead of finding some kind of enlightened philosopher king, he finds Donald Trump.

I used to not understand Barr, because he didn't seem to be a complete idiot, but now I think he might actually be an idiot.

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[–] blazera@lemmy.world 67 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hey its that guy that was found in criminal contempt of congress and is supposed to be in jail

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah he just endorsed Trump, why do you ask?

/s I hope unnecessarily.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 52 points 7 months ago

Barr doesn't want to be the first political rival that gets executed.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Remember that Barr would vote for him again as well.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I wonder, could it be a method for him to tell right wingers how awful Trump is and not get dismissed outright. It is probably helping more people hear the truth than would have.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But for a group of people who always will put party ahead of nation, what will it actually do?

Edited to add Barr's quote:

And in my mind, I will vote the Republican ticket. I will support the Republican ticket. I think the real danger to the country – the real danger to democracy, as I say – is the progressive agenda.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Dude, fuck Bill Barr and Chris Sinunu and Mitch McConnell and all these pathetic hypocrites.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Sounds like a very reasonable and sensible justification for the death penalty.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Hes a damn crackpot judge if hes voting for the homicidal orange maniac

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Dark Helmet said it best.

"... evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

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