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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] pb42184@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I think people hate vegans more than veganism. The most annoying x% makes the other (100-x)% look bad

Choose your own x I don't want dunks from either side lol

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 6 months ago (8 children)

It's not veganism we hate, it's the stereotypical preachy vegans, acting like farming is the equivalent of the holocaust.

You don't tell me what to eat, I won't tell you what to eat, everyone's a winner.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Obviously there's the stereotype and that is what it is, but I usually get irked at the suggestion that it's easy and an imperative. Veganism and other similar diets are an EXTREME luxury, and is only a viable option for a small percentage of the population. It would never have been an option in the past and is still not remotely an option for most humans.

edit: see below comments to understand what I mean

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

lmfao people have been vegan thousands of years ago e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ma%27arri

beans and rice are poverty foods, not luxury. Meat is a luxury food.

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[–] wolandark@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

no one hates veganism, we just hate the vegans

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seems like most people on this post have fallen into the trap of judging a group based on a loud subset of the group. Most vegans/vegetarians I know don’t like to share that they are veg precisely because of that stereotype.

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[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 9 points 6 months ago

For me it's the high-horse holier than thou attitude most of them seem to carry in online conversations. I know a fee vegans and they are mostly fine in person after the first few months of radicalization, but I imagine they just suppress it in person to maintain the acquaintanceship and then bitch in their vegan echo chambers about how "my co-worker who knows I'm vegan had the audacity to order a hamburger and eat it in front of me knowing I'm vegan, does he know he's destroying the world with that Burger... AITA?"

If you're looking for scientific answers, good luck they, Inrhjnjbmost people stop worrying about micromanaging people after a few years of academia.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (10 children)

No body hates veganism as a concept in and of itself. People dislike vegans that think they're better than everyone else because they eat no animal product.

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Because appx 1% of vegans are straight up obnoxious and indignant. And a similar percentage of meat eaters are also.

Then everyone else just mildly gravitates to tribalism but probably doesn't actually care that much.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I do not like being told by someone that i need to become vegan because they have become vegan.

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[–] Shadowq8@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

There is a push from the meat industry to make hating veganism the cool thing is what I feel is going on. Some militant vegans are honestly annoying.

[–] Sniatch@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Funny is that I have only seen Anti Vegan threads on here. Like, who is the annoying one?

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[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't mind vegans, or that lifestyle, at all. What I do mind is people who are overtly (and possibly aggressive) in presenting a lifestyle that the feel is "right". Unfortunately there's a stereo type with vegans being that way.

Veganism is a big lifestyle choice and the difference to vegetarian is the avoidance of near all animal products if and when possible. Not just in regards to eating meat, but things like a leather wallet too.

Someone has to be careful and on top of their diet and dietary needs to be vegan and properly nourished (even omnivorous people are subject to this malnutrition mind you).

I have some personal differences in views to vegans in regards to the consumption of meat, but rather similar views in how it's obtained. I do think generally the mass production and lifestyle is not morally correct for the animals. However I would also say humans are naturally omnivorous and eating meat is something that not only is built into our diet but what gave us a fundamental evolutionary advantages.

Animals eat animals and humans are animals. Though if we are sentient enough and empathetic enough creatures we should at least provide a decent life for the animals and utilize all we can so as not so waste them.

[–] Kacarott@feddit.de 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I respect your viewpoint, but I wanted to point out that I think the argument of "animals do X, therefore it's ok" isn't a really good one, imo. In fact I think one of the features of being human is being able to rise above what other animals do, when we think it is a good idea. (Whether it's a good idea here though, is another topic)

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