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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t0luxi/wwiii_megathread_39_trump_dump/

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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers — loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.

“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”

The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on YouTube. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.

“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”

But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news — the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.

It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.

“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”

With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on YouTube, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do — even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.

While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.

But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks — who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago — the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.

Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king — the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.

I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”

And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”

Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”

It’s probably for the best — the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all — class issues,” he said on a recent episode.

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Its full of brawndo. Its what plants crave.

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(...) “If ensembles are to reflect the communities they serve,” he wrote, “the audition process should take into account race, gender

Pitting what’s seen as meritocracy in its purest form against the diversity standards of the day was doomed from the start. (...)

I’ve called for an end to the practice of blind auditions for years.

To make a contentious change requires the buy-in of many different kinds of people. One person’s call for “representation” is another’s outrage at “quotas.” I believe we can—and should—elevate this conversation past that endless, tiresome tug-of-war. (....)

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t8qpm7/debunking_ancient_israel/

While this is GDF, not a strict Bible scholar and the topic is something others wrote about better

It does touch on the fact that Israel, as secular, humanist society, does use a holy book and archeology, for the justification of their state.

I don't know why people even engage with this gish gallop bullshit. They could have had the greatest, most efficiently self-governed utopian empire paradise in history, it doesn't mean your alleged cultural descendants get a claim on that land for the rest of time. Anyone capable of tying their own shoe laces can grasp this.

I'm Palestinian American.

I can, by memory, recite my entire family tree and its lineage for the past several 100 years across specific villages in historic Palestine. We had farms, lemon trees. We farmed chickens. My family on both sides were driven from their villages at gunpoint by Zionist terrorist militia gangs during the Nakba. Our land "repossessed" by a bunch of European atheist terrorists backed by the world's superpower and claiming to have inhabited our land 3,000 years ago.

It is on plainly on its face absurd. Even more absurd when I point out to people that Ivanka Trump, by virtue of converting to Judaism after marrying American Jared Kushner, can instantly gain citizenship and the right to the land of my ancestors that we had lived in since time immemorial.

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t8u6yh/israel_built_and_defended_a_secret_iran_war_base/

“It’s normal that before operations you reconnoiter and set up these kinds of locations,” said Michael Knights, the head of research for Horizon Engage, a strategic advisory firm.

... We are a strategic intelligence platform that delivers the clarity global investors need to make smarter decisions. -- Horizon Engage

🤢 We wouldn't want to disappoint the investors and stakeholders in the matters of death and destruction.

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You went full stupidpol, man. Never go full stupidpol.

Maybe just because I wanted an excuse to use the "Tuckerpost" flair, I'm sharing a transcript of several moments from the NYT's latest interview of Tucker Carlson (which reveals itself throughout the video to be an attempted character assassination for his Israel-critical commentary). The parts I transcribe are entertaining to me in that it's essentially a 2026 update of Tucker's viral communist Tucker Carlson meme from some years ago, while the interviewer subtly rehashes Hillary Clinton's if I broke up the banks tomorrow response to Bernie.

Bonus points for mentioning Occupy Wall Street.

As for Tucker's true intentions, the common take I see on stupidpol is that he's an opportunist using the lingo to coax leftists into voting GOP. I think that ignores what seems like a genuine disillusionment with the Republicans, but he's clearly not actually a socialist by any stretch. It seems that the populist edges of the two-party system will continue to blend and blur in confusing ways as the contradictions of the capitalist system reach a breaking point.

Anyway, here goes:

Interviewer: Given how influential Fuentes is right now-

Tucker Carlson: Is he?

I: Is he not?

TC: I dont know- doesn't seem to be- he didnt get us into a war with iran. Like who cares actually? That's kind of what I'm saying: All of this is a sideshow. Americans are being killed in a foreign country at the behest of another foreign country, and it's going to wreck the US dollar and cause hyperinflation on our country, and we're fretting about what some- kid on the internet said. It's like, who cares?

Actually, this is a way of taking us away from the core issues which are economic. They're economic. And that is the one thing that nobody ever wants to talk about. How is the money distributed? Where does the money come from? No one wants that. That is why the only left-wing movement I've ever had sympathy for was the one that arose after the global financial crisis, Occupy Wall Street. (1:17:22)

I didn't know exactly what they were about, but I was like "yeah, we should be mad at the banks because they did this and nobody got punished. And within, like, 20 minutes we're talking about black people and white people and-"

Interviewer: -I'm- I'm- I'm happy to talk about economics, but your interview with Nick Fuentes has 25 million views...

[Further quibbling about the importance of Nick Fuentes]

TC: (1:20:45) Race is thrown up as a distraction, so often as in this case, to distract from the economic matters of- Fuentes, himself, is a distraction from the conversations that matter. Because power is displayed through the structure of the economic system, globally and in our country, and in the use of force. So the economic program and the foreign policy program are what matters, in every government from the beginning of time. Those are the two questions on which there's a bipartisan consensus in Washington that we should do this thing. The public rejects that thing, on both categories, they reject the economics and they reject the foreign policy consensus choice in Washington. So Washington's response- Wall Street's response- is to go, "Let's have a race war..." ... "And so Fuentes is incredibly useful for people with actual power to divert the conversation to something that is both irrelevant and divisive.

"We can argue about the trans thing, and you can have legitimate views on race, legitimate views on trans. Those are all real issues, I'm not saying they're not. But those are not the issues on which empires rise and fall. The real issues are on economics and foreign policy, and on those issues there's a bipartisan consensus. And so they throw up, 'We're disagreeing on trans or on affirmative action or whatever', but they agree on everything that matters . . . And so everyone wants to talk about Fuentes because it's really safe. No one wants to talk about: Why are capital gains taxes half those of taxes on regular income? I think that's a critical debate. points at NYT interviewer You will never have that debate. Have you ever asked that question? And I think nothings more important, domestically, than that. But whatever, that's my opinion.

That is the second time in this interview that Tucker explicitly asks, "Why is capital taxed half that of labor?" (54:47).

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t8rr7s/nerc_issues_alert_on_data_centers_threatening/

guys climate change though, also planned obsolesence isn't real, we live in a planet of extreme scarcity.

pretty sure it is just that...we must all sacrifice to feed the machine

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t981cp/indias_first_and_oldest_gay_rights_activist_is/

For those who don’t know: the RSS is the Hindu nationalist organization of which the BJP, India’s current ruling party, is the political wing.

EDIT: Realized the article is old news, posted in 2018 right before homosexuality in India was decriminalized by the Supreme Court.

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t98zda/aoc_doing_aoc_things/

Both of these women are so cringe it is insane. One is a retarded fascist mom, and the other is a libshit "progressive" who does absolutely nothing to advance anything, couldn't even say shit about Gaza for the longest time. But yankee leftists still parade her like she's a fighter.

it was an amendment that did nothing to stop the overall funding for offensive munitions for israel (multiple billions) but only stripped like $500 million going towards the iron dome.

this is how conservatives operate, they will introduce a bill that kills all puppies + gives healthcare to poor people, and then when it is voted no, they go and cry wolf saying progressives hate poor people.

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t8w7ut/the_war_on_iran_will_likely_end_in_american/

America has already lost, they are just refusing to admit it.

Iran has proven that the mighty American war machine is not so mighty, Iran has not just given Israel a bloody nose but have broken it, the US military is almost at the stage of open defiance to the government, China and Russia are laughing off American sanctions, and the US economy is tanking.

The only thing that worries me is that America is run by a bunch of lunatics and end-times evangelicals, and they could decide to nuke Iran. And then when there is no Russian and Chinese cavalry riding to the rescue and destroying the Terrorist State of America once and for all, nuclear weapons will be normalised (like every other war crime committed by USrael) and we will enter a really, really dangerous era that will surely end in catastrophe and the end of civilisation.

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t7lm2t/zizek_on_eurocentrism/

👃... sniff

Why is he acting like muslims owning African slaves is something he only got from "smart right-wingers?" this is an established historical fact lol.

Also I always thought eurocentrism in more to do with an understanding of history, esp modern history, of Europe as being the main actors in modernity, and relegating non-European actors to the sidelines. I've been reading the book How the West Came To Rule which tries to provide a more balanced view on the emergence of capitalism. One thing the book discusses at length is how the pre-existent slave systems in Africa facilitated the rise of the transatlantic slave trade, bc surplus slave populations existed.

His point at the end is kind of true though, in how criticisms of Europe implicitly accept and reproduce the framework of the European enlightenment. I guess jihadists are the exception lol.

Zizek switches between verbal shitposting and serious intellectualism on a dime. He's only calling right wingers "smart" to mock the contingent of the left who whitewash Islam because muslims are currently victims of western imperialism. He absolutely thinks right wingers are stupid as shit, but recognizes them for acknowledging this piece of history more openly than liberals (and many self proclaimed marxists) do. That said, right wingers obviously dont acknowledge the MENA slave trade out of a dedication to honest historicity, but rather from the perspective of islamaphobia and Christian nationalism, which is equally worthless.

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t7nyk5/do_your_family_members_talk_often_how_society_is/

At least once a week when I’m having a meal with my parents they’ll comment on how the portions are smaller, it tastes worse or it’s more expensive than when they were kids (about 30-40 years).

They’ll talk about how nothing’s cheap these days, another business shutting down and how it’s so hard for people to get jobs now.

My dad will say multiple times a week how people are fucked in the head by drugs and mental illness without the asylums. Then he’ll say it’s too dangerous for me to go into town like he did back in the day because of these people.

My Grandad once or twice a month will lament how antisocial people are. He’ll mention going on a bike ride and greeting 10 people that past him and less than half respond. The women look at the 80 year old with fear. My dad will go “no shit Sherlock”

I don’t know it seems my family doesn’t have a lot of hopes for the future and it makes me very anxious. When I tell them my concerns for my future and how I wish I was born in more prosperous times they act confused. It annoys me.

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t7pc0o/can_someone_explain_to_me_how_exactly_the_2016/

I supported Bernie both times he ran and I thought the way the centrist Democrats treated him was scummy but I’ve never understood this article of faith narrative among U.S leftists that he was somehow cheated out of being the nominee when he lost the popular vote both times?

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t7qsn9/the_hantavirus_outbreak_is_a_failure_of_capitalism/

Whether the Hondius cluster becomes the next pandemic cannot yet be known. What is certain is that the capitalist ruling class has demonstrated, over six years and counting, that it is structurally incapable of preventing pandemics.

They let the fuckers just get off and run around the public. Shit they cant even account for all of them. They were on a ship! They had them all in one place already and then just said fuck it, let em run loose. Its hard to even say its negligent, it feels almost like a deliberate attempt to start a new pandemic. Just wow.

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https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1t7s1zh/graham_platner_invokes_ohio_gop_in_response_to/

I really want to be cynical about Platner, that at the end of day he's just a Dem, but I see a Bernie guy that likes to say "retard" and I go "that's me!"

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