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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/DeVOs-N2o-gooD on 2024-10-02 02:43:20+00:00.


I follow the phenomenon and all its facets with great detail, and in all my years of discussion and research, this information is possibly the most concise and inarguable I have found. I highly recommend showing this to people that are on the fence or not particularly engaged in the subject as it contains a series of statements that are not only true, but are displayed in such a way that it is easy to take into ones mind and digest As current events unfold there is value in spreading knowledge to the masses. If anybody has the time or is more talented than me at editing this info dump, it could surely surely be shortened or at least processed into a series of clips for people that are not willing to sit down for a three hour session

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Ross Coulthart on July 7th, 2023 made a statement regarding a UFO "so big it can't be moved." Ross has since refused to share any further information about the location of that UFO despite in his initial claims suggesting that it'd be reported to Congress for them to investigate. As far as the public knows, that hasn't happened. Lue Elizondo also won't comment on the craft when asked. Doesn't mean it's true, just Lue won't touch it because it wasn't covered by his DOPSR.

Are there any other potential leads? Well, recently.... Recently one has surfaced on Twitter. Yes, it's Korea which has previously been discussed as potential location. However, now we have a specific historical reference to an incident stemming from a specific person (John Lear) and a document (The Matrix I book, page 235, published 1988).

Page 235 from "The Matrix - Understanding Aspects of Covert Interaction with Alien Culture, Technology and Planetary Power Structures"

This is a page from the book "The Matrix - Understanding Aspects of Covert Interaction with Alien Culture, Technology and Planetary Power Structures"

Specifically, pay attention to the highlighted text as well as this reference to time, which may give us an estimate of location:

Reference to a "saucer" "so enormous" that it caused "logistic problems in transportation so enormous that it was buried at the crash site and remains there today."

Credit to Twitter user CuriousNHI for pointing this out. This is not my discovery, this is theirs!

Unfortunately for us, John Lear has now passed away. He died in March of 2022, however, so it's plausible that he could have been a source for Ross Coulthart prior to his death. Whether or not you find John Lear credible is for you to decide.

Another Twitter user, in response to the posts about the page from this book, chimed in with this document, which references "Near Seoul S Korea - ET craft from 1970s," "downed in a mountain," "3 years to build." Admittedly the 1970s and "Korean war" (1950-1953) timeline would not match up, nonetheless, still interesting.

Document from Twitter user https://x.com/Gandalf_ElPulpo/status/1841333410125770843

There's also this image that Twitter user LaxSunnyG shared which would match up with the Korean War timeline. Size is unclear here. I do not know the origin of this image.

So, could this potentially be the origin of the UFO "so big it can't be moved" story? Maybe. Perhaps John Lear told Coulthart this, or Ross read the book as part of his research into UAP. As to what the exact building is in Korea =- I do not know. If you click into these Twitter threads I've linked to people discuss some possibilities. But I still found this interesting in establishing potential context and origin(s) for such a claim by Ross.

For reference, here are Ross's exact prior statements about this craft.

Ross: Okay, people are going to question what I'm about to say. What if some of that shit is so big it can't be moved?

Jay: Is that what you're saying Ross?

Ross: That's exactly what I'm saying.

Jay: How big is big?

Ross: Big. So big they built a building over it in a country outside of the United States of America. I know it sounds preposterous, and oh my god, you can just hear them now, the bleeping debunkers. Let's see this investigated. Let's just see what happens. Let's test these allegations before the Congress. It's very very easy for people to go "oh there's no evidence, oh my goodness my goodness me, let's just go away and ignore it." Let's test it. We haven't even got there yet. You know there's a whole cadre of experts on social media who are saying "it can't be therefore it isn't." And that's been the default for so many years. Imagine if what Mr. Grusch is true, think about the implications of that. And imagine as I've just intimated to you, some of these objects are not capable of being moved because they're too bloody big.

Jay: That's pretty astonishing, have you said that before?

Ross: No, no, you're the first. I always always save something for you Jay.

Jay: No seriously though, that's nuts. So you were told by someone, a trusted source I imagine...

Ross: Multiple. Multiple.

and then later in the interview:

Ross: It's absolutely gobsmacking that it's being kept this secret. Imagine having an object that's so big it's just not conceivable to move it. I thought it was bollocks when I heard it too, and most people will when they hear this anyway. Again, just an allegation, but one that I'm assured should be taken seriously and hopefully will be getting investigated by the Congress. Because again, where did the money come from, what's that money accounted for, the continued security and um control of such an object for many decades? Who has paid for that? What programs have paid for that? Has that been disclosed to taxpayers? This is gonna be a really fun inquiry if Congress starts doing its job.

Ross recently made the following statement reiterating he is not going to share the location:

"And it's quite funny. One of the things I talked about at one stage, and I wish I never had, was my knowledge of a very large non-human craft that was discovered, and was so large that it was hidden. And I can't reveal how it was hidden, but obviously there's something built over the top of it. I can't reveal where it is. And I've actually had death threats from lunatics on the web saying that I'm under an obligation to reveal it. But what I know is if I revealed the location of that object I'd put the lives of good men and women in the service of their country in jeopardy, because it's a place that's being used for a dual purpose. It's quite clever what they've done. And I have no intention of revealing it, absolutely none. And there are many examples of that, where journalists like myself, after consulting with people on the inside, we made a judgment about what we should and shouldn't reveal."

And Lue Elizondo was also asked about this location and made the following statement:

Interviewer: "Ross Coulthart, who you know well... discussed a UFO a while back that was so big that it couldn't be moved, and it was actually built over. And it's still used to this day as a working building. And I wonder if that's something you've heard of at the time, and how common could that be?

Lue: I unfortunately cannot discuss that. Um, I have to be very careful, I can discuss what is in the book because I have approval to do that. What you're referring to is something that I would not be able to confirm or deny. And let me be very clear with that, I cannot elaborate at all. If someone else has elaborated on it, that's fine. I have not been given any permission to discuss anything like that.

Interviewer: Help me then, because on a similar path, shapes are discussed, as well as size... on Joe Rogan you mentioned a USO. You mentioned a USO so big that it was the size of a small city block, captured off an oil rig. So some people are going to hear this and I'm used to the UFO conversation, but wonder why you can mention that, but not potentially the UFO under the building.

Lue: Because I'm not discussing sources and methods. I'm not discussing capabilities or locations. I'm not discussing an actual program, I'm discussing simply what was observed. You're asking me to confirm or deny something... the existence of something, I don't have permission to do that. What I can do is from my personal observations I've seen video of an event, right? But I'm not saying where that event is, under what circumstances, what collection capabilities, where that place was, how long ago it was... you know, I'm not giving any of that. You know, it's just anecdotal. That in itself isn't classified. If I give you details of that, I could get in serious trouble so I'm very careful not to do that.

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Original Title: Thought you guys would be interested in this. When Albert Einstein investigated the U.S. military's UFO sightings in 1945, he confirmed that he believes they did see "UFO's", but ironically Einstein's brief but serious response was that "he didn't care whether they exist or not". I think he knew tho

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Original Title: Lue Elizondo wrote about luering in UAP in his book Imminent using nuclear material. After reading his book and rediscovering this short film from Omeleto I thought some here would appreciate this film. It really encapsulates the weirdness of the phenomenon.

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The real shock—the truly indigestible part of disclosure—is not about who they are, what technology they possess, or even what the government has done. Disclosure is fundamentally about who we are, what we are, and why we are here.

 

When Luis Elizondo talks about us not being at the top of the food chain, it's not just that there's a stronger or more advanced civilization out there. It's not about them; it's about us and how limited or primitive our awareness has been. They don't merely have better technology—they might be from a higher level of reality (if "reality" is even the right term). It's about us discovering how small we truly are.

 

The shock isn't in realizing that they are bigger or stronger. It's in understanding that we are much smaller and less significant than we ever imagined. Disclosure is ultimately about who we are

 


 

Grusch's Holographic Principle Example

 

Remember when Congressman Eric Burlison asked David Grusch during the hearing last year to expand on the concept of multidimensionality? Grusch began explaining the holographic principle. He said:

 

"If you want to imagine a 3D object such as yourself casting a shadow onto a 2D surface, that's the holographic principle."

 

It's intriguing that he used a human being as the example of a 3D object casting a shadow. He could have chosen the water bottle in front of him, the microphone, or the table—but he didn't. He chose a human being. At first, that seemed odd, but perhaps it's the perfect metaphor. It suggests that we, as humans, might just be projections or shadows of a higher-dimensional reality.

 


 

Jim Semivan's Indigestible Truth

 

When James Iandoli asked Jim Semivan what could be so indigestible about this subject, wondering if it's the idea that we're being visited by an intelligence more advanced than us, Semivan replied:

 

  • It's much deeper than that.
  • Something that people can't do anything about.
  • It's so world-changing and transformational—and maybe not in a good way.

 

He then quoted Luis Elizondo, mentioning that:

  • It lies in the intersection of consciousness and quantum physics.
  • Semivan also described these two areas as things we don't know much about and that could be extraordinarily scary.
  • He talks about the idea of a universal consciousness and that we're a part of it.
  • He talks about the scientists who grasped what quantum theory is in the 1920s and 1930s, realized that we're immaterial—that we're basically an illusion.
  • He also says that we've come to find this to be true: we are essentially invisible; there's no matter there; we're just energy forms.

 

He then asked about how the President would describe such a reality. Can the President say:

 

There's another presence in the universe which visits us, and we don't understand it.

This presence is capable of transforming itself into anything it wants.

This presence is capable of manipulating the electromagnetic spectrum.

This presence is capable of manipulating matter.

This presence is capable of showing us things that may or may not be real—or things might be real and not real at the same time.

This presence is capable of reading your mind.

These capabilities challenge our understanding of sovereignty and free will.

 


 

My Conclusion So Far

 

I believe they are trying to tell us that we are living in a simulation—not necessarily a computer simulation as we understand it, but a simulation nonetheless. Think about it:

 

**Grusch's Example:**His metaphor of a human being casting a shadow from a higher dimension aligns with the idea that our reality is a projection of a more complex one.

Consciousness Outside Our Bodies: This could explain why consciousness might exist outside our physical forms.

Immaterial Existence: It suggests we are immaterial—that we're basically an illusion. We're just energy forms and essentially invisible.

 

I don't fully understand what this presence is, and perhaps neither does the government. But this line of thought seems to have system admin capabilities .

 


 

 Important

I'm sharing this to seek help and feedback. This is all based on my belief that the government is genuinely trying to disclose the phenomena to us—or at least parts of it.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/VolarRecords on 2024-10-02 09:39:31+00:00.

Original Title: On today's Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford, Chris Sharp brought up the Magenta, Italy crash-retrieval of 1933 that David Grusch referenced in his interview with Ross Coulthart in 2023 and again in the Congressional hearing and National Archives documents regarding the case

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Original Title: Rep Moskowitz confirms to Laslo that UAP Disclosure Act is not dead this year and negotiations are still happening. He says "a lot of my colleagues here are gonna push for it", but depends on whether House Republicans can make it a big deal and get Speaker Mike Johnson to make it a priority.

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I remember someone (was it Ross Coulthart?) claiming that a secret part of the the American Government was secretly scouting for people who had psychic abilities, because those would be able to steer a craft.

Could someone give me a source for what I’m talking about.

It was something about only specific people having the ability to mentally make a connection to the control system of a UAP craft.

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I was contacted by Enigma Labs via reddit before they launched and did a phone interview and exchanged some emails. I was under the impression it was kind of like a market research thing. I'm not sure how many other people did this and am wondering if it was odd.

I also reported a UAP on their app and noticed it was eventually removed. I think the removal was very suspicious because it didn't have a bad integrity score or whatever they call it.

How many others have had a similar experience with Enigma Labs?

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This is a very interesting development imo. From D. Dean Johnson on Twitter. The specific part of title X they are lobbying on is as follows: “Limitation Regarding Independent Research and Development-, Independent research and development funding relating to [UAP] shall not be allowed as indirect expenses for purposes of contracts covered by such instruction, unless such material and information is made available to the appropriate congressional committees and leadership.”.

In the Lobbying Report, they specifically say “all provisions related to microelectronics and device cyber protection”.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/governmentsalllie on 2024-10-01 19:33:12+00:00.


Julian Barnes, of Harvard University, and formerly at the Will Street Journal, is functioning as an asset for US intelligence interests. It is hard to imagine that he isn't paid by back chanalled intelligence funding, as he covers national Intelligence, and is rarely ever critical of the US intelligence agencies.

Why, we wonder, doesn't mainstream media cover UFOs? The CIA has infiltrated all major media for decades, to ensure fewer embarrassing Pentagon Papers type articles make it to the NY Times or Washington Post. That is the position Julian appears to be in.

If you watch Jesse Michaels' recent interview with James Fox you see that Julian plays a major role in keeping the UAP topic frindge and out of NYT pages; stifling the work of Leslie Kean and others. This is the position that the CIA wants their personal or asset working: national security. The guy getting the anonymous tips from unnamed US intelligence officials, and reporting it as fact that need not be questioned.

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Recently, I have noticed an increasing number of posts claiming that the UFO community is full of gullible individuals who believe in things without doing proper research or without exercising enough skepticism. As a result, some suggest that the entire phenomenon and community deserve to be marginalized or ridiculed. Personally, I don't agree with this perspective.

While it is true that within the UFO community there are indeed individuals who fail to conduct adequate research or verification of what they believe, this doesn't reflect the entire community. Many of us are genuinely curious, open-minded, but also skeptical enough to question and explore various theories without blindly accepting everything. In fact, figures like Stanton Friedman, Kevin Randle, Leonard Stringfield, J. Allen Hynek, and Robert Hastings are prime examples of individuals who applied scientific rigor and rationality to their investigations. These researchers were not content to believe everything at face value; they sought evidence, tested hypotheses, and used a methodical approach to better understand the phenomenon. Moreover, they were never afraid to call out lies and frauds when they found them, maintaining integrity in their work (for instance, Stanton Friedman exposed Bob Lazar, and Hastings exposed Richard Doty and MJ-12). Their efforts demonstrate that the UFO community is capable of producing great thinkers who prioritize verification and thoughtful analysis over blind belief. Reducing the entire community to a single stereotype simply because of the actions of a subset of people is not only unfair, but it misses the bigger picture.

Furthermore, the idea that the UFO phenomenon and its community should be dismissed or mocked overlooks a critical point. The marginalization and ridicule of UFOs and those who believe that there is more to the phenomenon haven't always been organic reactions. In fact, they have been deliberately crafted by governments, particularly the U.S. government and intelligence agencies. There is a long history of misinformation and disinformation campaigns designed to sow confusion and discredit those who take UFOs seriously. This is a well-documented strategy, one that has been used to manipulate public perception and silence serious discussion about the topic. Ridicule, in many cases, has been weaponized to deter serious investigation and push the narrative that anyone who believes there might be something more to UFOs is somehow irrational. This tactic has worked for decades to discourage open dialogue and to delegitimize both witnesses and researchers who bring forward compelling evidence.

It is essential to remain critical, yes, and to question extraordinary claims, but we shouldn't fall into the trap of assuming that the entire UFO community is naive or deserving of mockery. The phenomenon is complex, and it has attracted a wide range of people from different backgrounds, many of whom are genuinely searching for answers. I think that people should not let the actions of some individuals influence their perception of the community as a whole. Instead, I think it is necessary to encourage thoughtful discussion, grounded in both curiosity and reason, rather than dismissing or ridiculing the entire topic.

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Original Title: SL, Utah a couple of weeks ago. Saw in the distance over the city and it flew east over the mountains and out of eyesight in approximately 2 minutes. Occasional flashes of red light, couldn’t make out a shape with the naked eye it was quite small.

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