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TLDR: I don't think the Collins Elite are necessarily the bad guys; I think they're potentially wrong about a lot of things, but well-intentioned. I would like to try and explain the POV of the Collins Elite in a more sympathetic light based on my research. My thesis* is that while the Collins Elite may be wrong about the origin of some NHI and about disclosure, they are not necessarily wrong about the malevolent intentions of some NHI. Because there is evidence of malevolence, they are acting, from their POV, in the best interest of humanity.

THE COLLINS ELITE: WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND WHY

The Collins Elite believe NHI are demons that were summoned into our plain of existence by occult practices - in particular, the occult summoning practices of Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons. According to the Collins Elite, the goal of these demons is to deceive humanity into believing they are ETs to turn humanity away from God so they can lead humanity towards damnation. Interestingly, these demons supposedly feed on human souls. (Keep this last part in mind - it'll come back up later). To feed on us, the demons intend to bring about strife and nuclear war/mass death to kill the human race and take our souls.

If you would like a primer/deep dive on the Collins Elite and the link between occult/esoteric practices and UFOs, I highly recommend the book Final Events by Nick Redfern (Redfern is NOT religious based on what I've read), the Great Series lecture on the matter, and ufologist/Youtuber Tupacabra's video on the matter. Tupacabra won a prize via a contest for his idea, and I would like to thank folks like him and Red Panda Koala for putting out such fantastic stuff. I would also like to give a shoutout to Isaac Weishaupt who has one of the most straightforward takes on how UFOs connect to the occult. Regardless of what you might think about conspiracy theories, he has one of the best explanations I've seen so far. I will also give extensive links in another post to hints dropped by UFO insiders that there is a link between the spiritual/esoteric and UFOs.

But that's getting ahead of ourselves. To understand WHY the Collins Elite believes all of this, we first need to look at two important historical figures: Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons.

CROWLEY AND PARSONS: TWO OCCULT PEAS-IN-A-POD

The Collins Elite believe that the Church of Thelema/Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) led by Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons opened a door to another plain of existence via entity-summoning occult rituals, which brought eldritch-like, Lovecraftian beings into our world.

First, let's look at Aleister Crowley. It is no secret that Aleister Crowley often performed occult rituals with the hopes of summoning demons, angels, and other mystical beings. Such rituals included blood sacrifice, sex magic, and the Gnostic Mass, which includes the imbibing of a cake of light made with "semen, menstrual blood, vaginal fluids, or a mix thereof."

Crowley supposedly performed one ritual in 1918 called the Amalantrah Working while in an altered state of consciousness (where have we heard about consciousness being important before?), which summoned a short-statured, large-headed being named "Lam".

Portrait of Lam. Look familiar?

Crowley drew this picture of Lam long before the concept of the Greys became part of pop culture. He did not refer to Lam as an ET, but as an "Enochian entity". Many have noted the physical resemblance between Lam and the Greys a la Whitney Streiber. The short stature, the large similarly shaped heads, the lack of hair, little to no ears, small nostrils, small mouths. Notably, the eyes are different, but a certain resemblance remains.

While Crowley was a bit of an odd duck and arguably the ultimate occult larper, Jack Parsons was an even bigger occult ritual enthusiast and Crowley follower. Jack Parsons is most famous for being a genius rocket engineer and one of the founders of Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), but he was well known for having odd occult sensibilities.

Parsons and company were into some rather wild and crazy stuff. For example, Parsons and company were accused by 16 year-old boy of rape, of having a naked pregnant woman jump through fire, and of animal blood sacrifice. Along with alleged animal blood sacrifice, a mysterious black box covered in magical symbols was reportedly found in his home. The contained home movies of Parsons having sex with his mother Ruth and her large black dog (this is according to Final Events, which cites the book Sex and Rockets). While married to his wife Helena, he also began a sexual relationship with Helena's sister Sara. She was 17 years old at the time.

One of his major goals was to summon a creature like Crowley and perform a ritual called the Babalon Working. During that ritual, Parsons reportedly had an out-of-body experience (*cough* ROBERT MONROE *cough*). He felt himself astrally transported to the biblically significant city of Chorazin, which is famous for supposedly being the place where the AntiChrist will come from. Finally, he also made an "Oath of the AntiChrist" where he professed to be the embodiment of the AntiChrist. This occurred in 1946.

Soon after performing the Babalon Working to summon creatures from beyond and Parson's attempt to become the AntiChrist, Kenneth Arnold reported his now famous flying saucer sighting in 1947. Then came the crash at Roswell in the same year. Roswell is significant as it was the location of a testing lab of Robert Goddard who was in talks with collaborating with none other than JPL.

How are all these events connected? Well, Parsons had "loudly proclaimed UFOs would ultimately 'play a part in converting the world to Crowleyanity.'" According to Richard Duke, a member of the Collins Elite, Parsons admitted to knowing Kenneth Arnold, admitted that the saucers were the result of the Babalon Working, and that he had more than a passing connection with Goddard and Roswell. This information came about because, given his work in top-level rocketry research, Parsons held a high-level security clearance and was investigated by AFOSI for espionage at one point. It was during those investigations that Parsons was pressed to talk about these connections.

As a result, a small group at Wright-Patterson started investigating into demonology, occult practices, Crowley, etc. This group would later invite a group to continue their research. That group became the Collins Elite.

HUNGRY, HUNGRY DEMONS: HUMANS AS SOUL FOOD

According to the Collins Elite who were monitoring these events, one channeled demon told them precisely what the demons wanted:

Certainly the most significant development came in September 1972, said Manners, when, surrounded at her home by eager-but-apprehensive players in both Operation Often and the Collins Elite, Leek entered a trance-like state, and reportedly channeled a demonic entity that described itself as Caxuulikom - a venomous, spiteful and overwhelmingly evil and negative being whose origins could be traced back to ancient Babylon, and who outrageously mocked those present, laughed and spat in their frightened faced, and bragged in a literally hysterical and maniacal fashion about the way in which the world was being fooled into believing that aliens were among us, when, in reality, the forces of the Prince of Darkness himself were readying and steading themselves for the final confrontation with the powers of good. Not only that, asserted Manners, but Caxuulikom informed those present that the Earth was a farm and nothing else, that energy derived from the souls of the Human Race and indeed from every living creature on the planet was being harvested as a means to feed the minions of Satan, and that the E.T. motif was merely the latest ingenious ruse under which such actions were being secretly undertaken.

Interestingly, a lot of the early channelers who claimed to be in contact with UFOs were in close proximity to OTO/Crowley followers. They were using occult instruments like ouiji boards and ritual magic to contact other worldly beings and got contacted by interdimensional "aliens". This would explain why channeling leads to so many different entities (e.g. Ra and the Law of One, Seth Speaks, Abraham and the Law of Attraction, etc.).

A DEMON BY ANY OTHER NAME: THE GODS OF EDEN, LOOSH, AND SEKRET MACHINES

Regardless of whether we call these beings demons or NHI, if their intention is malevolent and if they feed on human souls/energy, then it's really irrelevant what we call them or wher...


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The Senate Armed Services Committee, led by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), plans to hold a UFO hearing after the November elections, following increased sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). Gillibrand seeks a progress report from the Pentagon's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), which was established to analyze UAPs. The hearing aims to ensure transparency and build credibility around UAP investigations. Lawmakers have expressed frustration over slow progress, with some, like Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.), alleging a government cover-up. A March Pentagon report denies evidence of reverse-engineering extraterrestrial technology.

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Hey everyone. So, The Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies has a podcast called The Anomalous Review, which I host. I recently interviewed Chris Mellon on it, and I thought folks in this sub might find it relevant and interesting enough to check out. Links are below, along with links for my interviews with Garry Nolan, Kevin Knuth, Julia Mossbridge, and members of SCUs Leadership. The interviews are long-form conversations, and while I don't try to grill my guests, I do press them on points that I believe need pressing.

Hope you enjoy. Audio podcast is also available at the usual places.

Chris Mellon on Government Accountability and Disclosure


Also:

Garry Nolan on Reverse Engineering and UAP

Julia Mossbridge on Psi and UAP

Kevin Knuth on Simulating Star Systems and Detecting UAP

SCU Leadership on why SCU Exists and What it Does

Apple Podcast Link

Spotify Podcast Link

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Some guy posted this vid here in a comment I will link the original source in the submission statement. I find this video very compelling. Do we have some more data on this one and can someone translate what the gentleman in the video is saying?

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Original Title: The original file for the ufo video uploaded yesterday there’s writing on it as op filmed it for Snapchat he was filming a blazing fire that was going on for a couple days in ca read the description for details

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Original Title: 🔥NEW from The Good Trouble Show. Message to Congress from Dr. Garry Nolan: "The Pentagon's UAP Office AARO should be disbanded...Congress must pass The UAP Disclosure Act. Dr. Nolan has some choice words for Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick and more. One of our best interviews yet.

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Had to repost I didnt know i need to comment on my own post of at least 150 words but lets try this again

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Just watched the documentary by James Allen about McCandlish’s account of Alien Reproduction Vehicle (ARV) aka the fluxliner. It has some detailed information on how they possibly work and some good and interesting sources are named (i.e: H. Puthoff, T. T. Brown to name a few). A lot of the possible physics involved, as well as the propulsion systems seem very consistent with Lou’s account of UAP characteristics in Imminent. Just thought I’d share and get your thoughts.

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For all I know it may be impossible. But lately I've seen the 2027 thing come up a bit. Time and time again it's vague and ambiguous.

I was thinking it could be useful to create an index of everywhere 2027 has been mentioned as being a significant year in regard to NHI and UAP. Books, podcasts interviews any other sort of media.

I would think that it would begin to paint a picture which could potentially shine a light on where exactly this notion originated. I feel like identifying its first verified mention could really do a lot to make head way on deciphering the enigma.

Anyway just a thought if anyone has suggestions or a better idea of how to go about this undertaking please mention it in the comments.

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A few of us have been working together behind-the-scenes for a few months to figure out a broader timeline of the US government's involvement with UFOs/UAP. I've felt weird walking around with this stuff, so last Monday, after the revelation about Dick Cheney being linked by Grusch as being at the top of the UFO cabal, and then after the debate, I figured it was time to start really digging in and getting it down.

It's all broken my brain but is starting make more sense now. Grusch said he was tactical in getting the Magenta, Italy 1933 crash-retrieval case cleared by DOPSR to show that it was worldwide and goes past Roswell. The reality is the Magenta crash-recovery by Mussolini, experimented on by Nobel Prize winner Guglielmo Marconi, and later by the Germans, which was then backchanneled to the US by the Vatican via the OSS, truly sets up the power structure that would go on to shape the US and world following WWII.

I had to finally get around to using the Medium account I set up for this stuff after the hearing, as the posts were running too long for Reddit as I did my best to source stuff and include it. I'll link to those below. My apologies that they're a little messy; again, the whole thing has been breaking my brain and I'll go back and try to clean them up some.

The short version of the narrative is pre-WWII the Bush family and their law firm Brown Brothers & Harriman helped fund the Nazis and got rich doing so.

Then some of them were a major part of the OSS and decided the fate of WWII while also figuring out where the Magenta craft was.

Then in 1947 after Roswell, these same people set up the CIA and hide the UFO/UAP program.

Then George H. W. Bush and Allen Dulles, who was a lawyer working for George H. W.'s father at Brown Brothers & Harriman and then was a major part of the OSS and then the CIA, basically tried to take over the world doing evil shit. And if Dick Cheney is at the top of the cabal now, that's because he cozied up right alongside Bush and crew back in the 70s and then they both got rich going to war, running the oil business, killing our planet, and hiding advanced tech from us.

Most of those same folks attended Yale and were part of Skull of Bones, which ended up being prime recruitment grounds for the CIA.

Here's Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:

And now onto Part 4!

Now that we've covered much of George H. W. Bush's early days alongside Allen Dulles and the greed and worldwide damage they caused, let's cut to what happens after.

Back in March 1952, the Air Force set up Project Blue Book, their UFO/UAP research office widely regarded as a disinformation unit in response to an increase in UFO/UAP sightings that year. In November of that year after being elected, Eisenhower appointed Allen Dulles as the first civilian Director of the CIA and his brother John Foster Dulles as Secretary of State. Allen then commissioned a review of Blue Book and held the Robertson Panel immediately in January 1953, which concluded that there was nothing to the UFO issue.

Allen Dulles dies January 26, 1969 of lung cancer at age 75. By the end of the year, the CIA's UFO office Project Blue Book is disbanded and its secrets go private, likely to SAIC founded later that year.

Before that, the 1960s was a fraught time between JFK's assassination, the Vietnam War, and the fight for Civil Rights.

It was also the time that George Bush saw his ascension through the CIA, albeit clandestine at first.

If you'll remember, it was during his run for President in 1988 that UK publication The Nation outed him as secretly working for the CIA starting in 1960 or '61, and that he was briefed by the FBI on JFK's assassination.

From there, he would rise through the government via special appointments that confounded people considering his scant political career.

Following an unsuccessful run for the United States Senate in 1964, he was elected to represent Texas's 7th congressional district in 1966. President Richard Nixon appointed Bush as the ambassador to the United Nations in 1971 and as chairman of the Republican National Committee in 1973. President Gerald Ford appointed him as the chief of the Liaison Office to the People's Republic of China in 1974 and as the director of Central Intelligence in 1976. Bush ran for president in 1980 but was defeated in the Republican presidential primaries by Reagan, who then selected Bush as his vice presidential running mate.

Bush was appointed Director of the CIA by President Gerald Ford following the Church Committee, which dug its heels into the agency following Watergate and Nixon's resignation. Bush was put in place to tighten the lid on the agency's secrets, and now we can get to who else in his orbit.

Just today, Ryan Sprague at Somewhere in the Skies interviewed Anthony DeLorenzo of the XpandedKnowledge YouTube channel. Following the mention by Grusch that was brought up last Monday about Dick Cheney being at the top of the cabal, DeLorenzo published this video four days ago:

If you cut to Sprague's interview with DeLorenzo at around 17:30 here, they get into Dick Cheney's orbit in the '70s, specifically the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Ford-Nixon-Bush connections:

Dick Cheney started out as Donald Rumsfeld's assistant while Rumsfeld was Gerald Ford's Secretary of Defense from 1975-1977. DeLorenzo states that Rumsfeld has had a fascination with UFO subject going back to the 60s as documented in Michael Salla's US Air Force Secret Space Program Shifting Extraterrestrial Alliances Space Force, which can be read in its entirety here:

Rumsfeld was doing his own investigations into Congress about the UFO subject alongside Cheney and Ford in the 60s, and Nixon was Eisenhower's VP. So there's a good chance that Nixon knew about the supposed Eisenhower Accords in 1953.

Later in 1961, upon leaving office, Eisenhower made this famous speech about the dangers of the MIC.

Here's a breakdown on the two years he spent working on that speech personally.

When Nixon loses the 1960 election to JFK, to my knowledge after the first televised debate between the two when voters moved from supporting the gruff, older Nixon to the calm and charismatic JFK, he then runs for Governor of California in 1962 and loses to Democrat Pat Brown and drops out of politics. Republican Ronald Reagan then beats Pat Brown to become Governor of CA in 1966, and Nixon runs and wins the Presidency in 1968.

Oh look, Gerald Ford went to Yale at the same time as George H. W. Bush! It's also reported that he saw not just a UFO but had an encounter with beings!

And he held the Michigan seat in the House of Representatives from 1949-1973 after VP Spiro Agnew was forced to resign from office and Nixon appointed Ford to replace him. Then when Nixon resigned rather than be indicted over Watergate, Ford became defacto VP and named Rumsfeld as his Chief of Staff. When Rumsfeld becomes Ford's Secretary of Defense in 1975, he recruits his staffer Dick Cheney to succeed him as Chief of Staff.

So right there, in 1975, we Ford, Rumsfeld, Cheney in the White House and George H. W. Bush appointed director of the CIA by Ford, all following the fall of Nixon because of Watergate. And all a bunch of old school WASP-y dudes into UFOs.

Cut to the story that Danny Sheehan's been telling lately, that when Carter, who had seen a UFO as a Senator, won the election in 1976, nine days later he summoned CIA director Bush to his Savannah, Georgia to his home and asked him about the UFO subject. And Bush said he'd only tell him if Carter kept him on as Director. But Carter said he didn't like that deal, and after he was inaugurated, he removed Bush from the position.

So what happens in 1...


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"Are there other countries already advancing past the US in reverse engineering recovered technology? Matthew Pines seem to suggest just that on an episode of The Mr. Obnoxious podcast.Is disclosure already happening now because of this and are the private companies trying to get ahead of it? Kristian Harloff discusses."

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There are a ton of affidavits that I'm still going through, I thought I would post them for others to see. Pretty mind blowing.

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This past week in Disclosure:

Sep 10-11 – Various members of the House confirm a follow-up hearing on UAP will be hosted in the coming weeks

According to conversations with Askapol, Reps. Burchett and Luna confirmed that a 2nd UAP hearing will be hosted by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability. Rep. Nancy Mace will be the chair for this session.

Askapol: “So you think this is laying groundwork for next…?”

Rep. Burchett*: “Yeah, future things. And I think we got some, we'll get some good quality witnesses in. And I think too more whistleblowers will come in because we’re serious.”*

ML: “Yeah?”

Rep Burchett: “I think that would be excellent. And I think that'll lay the groundwork for the next President to do what's right with this.”

Previously, Sen. Gillibrand had indicated a UAP Hearing was also on the cards for the Senate – which would mean the topic is being publicly addressed at a bicameral level.

Sep 10 – Christopher Mellon speaks on the UAP topic in a new interview with Matt Ford

Mellon, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, appeared on the Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford to discuss his view on the current state of affairs vis-a-vis UAP, their national security implications and why he believes Congress must pass The Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2024 for the NDAA.

"One of the things that's concerning... is that we have a pattern of [UAP incidents] now, it seems to be getting more aggressive, more assertive. The length of time between incidents seems like it's maybe decreasing. We had this happen over Guam back in maybe 2018, Andersen Air Force Base, we had these incidents in 2019 over a number of navy ships...in some cases these objects/devices have actually been sort of taunting us [...] We absolutely need to get to the bottom of this."

Sep 11 – new FOIA releases shed light on some of Dr. Kirkpatrick's activities during his tenure as AARO's director

A recent FOIA release was published by the requester on X, and revealed some additional insight into some of the activities Dr. Kirkpatrick engaged in during his time as AARO's lead.

Notably, some of the emails released refer to disccussions hosted in order to enhance safety measures and inter-agency coordination on UAP-related issues. Key focus areas included:

  • Collision hazards across various domains
  • Implementation of COCOM (Combatant Command) responsibilities per the UAP General Administrative (GENADMIN) guidelines
  • Operational coordination and reporting between services
  • UAP response, recovery, and material transfer
  • Collaboration with civil aviation and other multi-sector partners
  • Command concerns and feedback mechanisms
  • Optimizing Command reporting of UAP-related phenomena, safety, and security analysis for the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).

Sep 13 – Rear Admiral (Ret.) Tim Gallaudet confirms he has been invited to testify at upcoming Congressional UAP hearings

In a LinkedIn post, retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet (who has previously asserted the existence of a NHI presence on Earth) announced he has been invited to provide his testimony during the upcoming UAP Hearings.

"Yesterday I was invited to testify on UAP disclosure before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability in November."

Things to look out for in the near future:

September/October/November

  • According to Senator Gillibrand – a public hearing in line with AARO's latest report can be expected soon, saying –"I’m hoping July, and if not then September. But I’m trying to do July.”
  • Speaking with Askapol, Reps. Luna and Burchett indicated that the next UAP hearing is likely to come after the August recess

Beyond/currently unknown

  • Following the UAP hearing on the 26th of July, Members of Congress have called for a select committee with subpoena authority, to “go about the task of collecting information from the Pentagon and elsewhere” on unidentified flying objects. There have been conflicting messages from various Members of Congress on whether this is likely to happen anytime soon. Note – a select subcommittee was formally requested on March 13th.
  • Reps. Moskowitz, Luna, and Burchett have repeatedly stated their intent to hold field hearings to overcome stonewalling from the Pentagon and military establishment "I think we [Congress] should try to get into one of these places [housing UAP evidence]...and if they won't let us in I think we should have a field hearing right outside the building...and the military will have to explain why that is." – Rep. Moskowitz (D) It is currently unknown when exactly we might expect that to occur, however as of Jan 12 – Rep. Luna confirmed: "I feel confident that we have enough evidence to move forward with our first field hearing. We will be announcing details soon."
  • Several journalists have indicated that first-hand witnesses of the alleged UAP legacy programs are in the process of providing testimony/evidence to the relevant authorities (e.g. the IC IG) and/or are on the verge of making public statements in the near future (Example 1example 2example 3example 4)
  • David Grusch has received additional clearances through DOPSR to discuss some of his (alleged) first-hand knowledge of Legacy programs. He has mentioned he may be covering more of this information in an upcoming Op-Ed

Skimmed through this post but need a quick refresher on how we got to this point? Check out this handy Disclosure Timeline to get up to speed.

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