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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/VolarRecords on 2024-09-11 11:08:32+00:00.

Original Title: The UFO crash-retrieval story is the biggest corruption case in modern history and involves the Nazi-funded Bush family and others in their orbit who created the CIA to hide the UFO/UAP Program and make themselves more rich via the oil business while hiding Free Energy and keeping us in Forever Wars

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With Dick Cheney's involvement with this topic is fresh on our minds, I feel compelled to get all this together.

I spent hours going REALLY LONG tonight and I guess it's Medium time. Find the full post below. Blew my fucking mind.

TL;DR the entire UFO crash-retrieval reverse-engineering story begins with the 1933 Italy UFO, and the corruption that Lue Elizondo keeps bringing up and the evil regime specified by Danny Sheehan, like in his latest interview in which he spends the entire time talking about George H.W. Bush, are the story of the US and UFOs/UAP and the lost history of advanced tech in which we were kept dependent on oil and dragged through endless, needless wars, while Bush, Cheney and the whole lot of them made billions off of our suffering and pushed a Nazi agenda.

Danny Sheehan on New Thinking Allowed talking about UFOs and George H.W. Bush:

Sheehan telling the story of Jimmy Carter tasking him with looking into UFOs after being denied info by George H.W. Bush who was running CIA and Michael Schratt's illustration of the UFO picture that Sheehan drew on his legal pad.

Last summer when David Grusch came forward, first in his groundbreaking interview with Ross Coulthart again the next month in the historic UFO/UAP Congressional hearing alongside pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves, he said that the one case he was cleared to talk about via the Pentagon's DOPSR case was the Magenta, Italy 1933 UFO crash-retrieval.

Some folks have done some digging into it, but I haven't seen anyone online dig in nearly as much as u/harry_is_white_hot (aka former Australian Intelligence officer with Top Secret clearance Geoff Cruikshank who dropped his mic on Reddit and then popped up publicly being interviewed by Ross Coulthart) and u/36_39_42. I'd advise anyone looking to dig into more about the Magenta case to look at the master timeline put together of Harry's posts and 36's post series rolling out what they've found as they keep digging and a few of us behind to scenes are trying to help.

Here's harry/Geoff with Ross Coulthart in case you haven't seen it.

Here are the American players you'll have to know. I'm going to zip through the Italian side of things.

George H. W. Bush

George's father Prescott Bush

George's grandfather and namesake Herbert Walker, father-in-law to Prescott

Allen Dulles

John Foster Dulles

W. Averill Harriman

James Angleton

Bill Donovan

Richard Bissell

Dick Cheney

So--on June 13th, 1933, a UFO crash lands in Magenta, Italy, just outside of Milan, and is found by two farmers. Italian mafia finds out about and it and Mussolini has it recovered with strict orders for nobody to talk about it. In 1996, Italian UFO researcer Roberto Pinotti receives some telegrams and drawings anonymously in the mail, and after having them analyzed, presented them as authentic in 2000. The image of the saucer below is an artist's rendition.

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Taken from the podcast Let's Get Haunted's episode The 1933 Magenta Italy UFO Incident (The “First” Crashed UFO):

Welcome to Episode 185: The 1933 Magenta Italy UFO Incident (The “First” Crashed UFO)! In 1933, an aircraft of unknown origin crashed in the small township of Magenta, Italy. At first suspecting it may be a failed launch from the German “Die Glocke” (anti-gravity experimental aircraft), Benito Mussolini’s best scientists and engineers raced to reverse engineer it. Ultimately they were unsuccessful, and after the Germans denied it was theirs, the axis realized they might have a flying saucer on their hands. When allied forces took back Italy in the mid-1940s, the Pope himself is rumored to have handed over the strange tech to the Americans. After being transported to Area 51 and then moved to a defense contractor’s warehouse, the remnants of the crashed vehicle are alleged to be the FIRST ever recovered UAP in the modern era. After years of rumors with no confirmation that this story was even true, both Lue Elizondo (former head of AATIP) and David Grusch (former intelligence officer turned whistleblower) have seemingly confirmed in recent years that this event really happened!

If you watched Unidentified, you'll remember that Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon spent quite a bit of time with Italian researchers. Right before Lue went quiet, he was spending a good amount of time in San Marino with podcasters Max Moscowicz, and there's been much talk about ICER and Project Titan and naming San Marino the UFO capital of the world. I really recommend checking out the ICER site.

And these are probably the two best articles on Magenta:

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/SeaworthinessLow8052 on 2024-09-11 11:01:40+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/QuantumRifter on 2024-09-11 04:05:03+00:00.

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Trying to keep up with the pace of disclosure updates this week has been like drinking from a firehose!

Multiple podcast appearances by Lue Elizondo dropping along with a speaking tour. Chris Mellon making the rounds on The Good Trouble Podcast with Gary Nolan on deck. Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp doing their thing. Former National Security Advisor H. R. McMaster dropping bombs on Bill Maher. Great interview with Matthew Pines recently. Jay Stratton coming out of the woodwork with his tell all. Senator Gillibrand eluding to more congressional public hearings this month. Another UAP task force member Sarah Gamm supposedly coming forward. Let me know what I missed. This is wild!

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Undercover_enigma on 2024-09-11 04:00:38+00:00.

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John Ramirez was the guy that dropped the 2027 date everyone throws around these subs. I say it myself somewhat tongue in cheek, but this one admittedly feels different given the rate of information coming out and the action we have seen with the likes of people like Lue, Grusch, and Mellon stepping up to the plate. For whatever reason John Ramirez has gone under the radar, which is ironic when you hear his background. To me he drops some serious information in this discussion and he’s vetted by Greenwald which is saying something in and of itself.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/TheWebCoder on 2024-09-11 01:35:10+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/TommyShelbyPFB on 2024-09-10 23:43:36+00:00.

Original Title: Chris Mellon - UAP behavior “seems to be getting more aggressive, more assertive, the length of time between incidents seems like it’s maybe decreasing". In some cases he says these UAPs seem to be "taunting" Navy ship Captains as though they are "thumbing their noses at them".

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/KOOKOOOOM on 2024-09-10 22:04:27+00:00.

Original Title: Clip from 2001 documentary: “We have people, prominent people that know all about what the government is sitting on. Dick Cheney, Vice President, was photographed at Level 2 of S4 looking at one of seven crashed discs.”

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/skywalker3819r on 2024-09-10 20:55:33+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/omnompanda77 on 2024-09-10 20:35:05+00:00.

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As always, Matt Laslo delivers the goods. With Elizondo’s book, Jay Stratton’s book announced, Gillibrand UAP hearing later this month, a new UAPTF member going public tomorrow, it appears that we are in the next leg of disclosure now.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/linglingverygooddog on 2024-09-10 20:24:46+00:00.

Original Title: The moment is ripe for a UAP/UFO movie to come to the big screen that includes the subtext: Based on a True Story. Can you imagine if Spielberg and Williams teamed up again to produce a blockbuster movie that chronicled UAP events in history and told the story of current efforts for disclosure?

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Imagine if filmmaker Steven Spielberg came out with the a definitive movie about the UAP topic, crafted to be both a historical reflection on UAP events in the last 80 years as well as a political thriller of current efforts inside the US Government to expose the reality of UAP. Teaming up with the legendary musical prowess of John Williams or Hans Zimmer to write the score. Imagine this juggernaut of a movie telling the story of the current political effort to further UAP disclosure, complimented with dramatizations of credible UAP events in history. Finally, a movie about “aliens” that wouldn’t be a bunch of cooked up fiction. Instead, we’d have a thriller of a movie giving some backstory to the Phenomenon while also telling the story of a quest inside the intelligence community and Pentagon to reveal the reality of UAP to the world. 

 

The movie could open with teasers scenes, showing brief dramatizations of some of the lesser known yet supremely haunting UAP events, occurring around the globe – hinting that this is a worldwide phenomenon. (I think the movie Independence Day did a great job of showing this

 

JAL Flight over Alaska – 1986

(Mix of Japanese & English dialogue) 

3-4 minutes of intensity in an aircraft flight deck showing confusion, bewilderment, and fear amongst the crew as they try in vain, while frantically communicating with Anchorage Center ATC, to identify and rid themselves of an unknown object shadowing them through the dark Alaskan night.  

 

Belgium - November 1989 

(All dialogue in French or German)

8-10 minutes showing various scenes acting out the recorded sightings that took place by civilians, police officers, and military individuals. After sunset, Two policemen in a car on a quiet roadside, get a scratchy call from dispatch to investigate a report of a sighting. Under a darkening sky, a man and woman stand on the banks of Lake Gileppe reservoir gazing outward as a UFO hovers over the water sending down red beams of light. A scene showing Belgian Air Force F16s scrambling to attempt and intercept the lights would be cool too. 

 

Divers at Lake Baikal, USSR – 1982

We all know what happened here. Would make for some great teaser material.

 

Stephensville, TX – 2008

Just like Belgium, but with Texas now! 

 

These opening scenes would be terrific in getting the audiences’ curiosity going. 

 

Then, snap to the early 2010s and a feature length dramatization of the quest by AATIP, featuring Lue Elizondo, to dig into the UAP topic as a conflicted government employee, tormented by the bureaucracy of the chain of command and the religious fanatics inside the pentagon who stonewall him time and again.

 

Throughout the movie as people come forward to talk with AATIP about their UAP encounters, a scene change would happen, allowing for a 2-4 minute snap-back showing that UAP event. For example: Robert Salas arrives in DC to give testimony and after getting seated inside the SCIF with Lue and his team and starts talking with the investigators the scene gives way into a 3-4 minute dramatization of the UAPs over Malmstrom.  

 

This “snap back” feature of the movie could play out a few more times throughout the film as Lue pours over historical documents in his investigations, as more people come to AATIP to give testimony, and as UAP events are discussed by the characters. These "snap-backs" in the film would segway into fantastic dramatization of other UAP events that haven’t been given proper re-dramatizations by past TV shows or documentaries. 

 Some examples of what I think would be very watchable “snap backs”: 

1.        The Navy Helicopter that while recovering airborne equipment after splashing down in the Atlantic happened to find itself hovering over a USO off the coast of Puerto Rico

2.        The December 1977 incident of molten metal falling from a light in the sky in over Council Bluffs, IA

3.        November 2006 – UFO hovers over Chicago O’Hare. 

 

Themes this movie could present would be the apparent interest UAP have with Nuclear Technology and Water. Perhaps some dialogue between scientist/intelligence characters discussing interdimensional aspect of the phenomenon? But, I’d leave out woo stuff like Skinwalker Ranch, Abductions, implants, etc. This movie still has to have an appeal for masses, not just the folks on this sub. 

 

I’d also leave scenes showing the Nimitz, Rendlesham, Ariel School, Varginha, Phoenix Lights, Roswell events because we don’t need to hear about or see re-enactments of those events for the 1000th time. 

 

Oh, and I would absolutely make sure some of the people actually working to disclosure efforts get cameos in the film! Elizondo could be a crazy homeless guy on a street corner in DC holding an “ALIENS ARE REAL” sign, George Knapp, wearing a cowboy hat, is an extra on a ranch in the Stephensville scene. Mick West as another face in a crowded cafeteria line at the Pentagon employee chow hall. Other invitees to cameo: Col. Nell, Garry Nolan and Jacque Valle! Valle could be great for speaking part in the Belgium scene. 

 

I don’t know how the movie would end. Definitely not with some bait & switch “Write your Senator & Congressional Representative!” fade to black text. I don’t know. Maybe you have an idea for how to close out this film? 

 

A movie like this would without a doubt in my mind become a “must see” in the same way E.T. and Close Encounters of the Third Kind were during their day. Other previous “alien” movies like Arrival, Super-8, Contact, or Independence Day that did well at the box office and penetrated the mainstream psyche deeply, presenting the idea of UAP in a whimsical and thrilling way were terrific to watch but let’s be honest, those films were always regarded as entertainment because we knew they were stories of fiction. But here we’d have a UFO film coming to theaters that could come with the intriguing subtext “based on a true story.” Imagine what a film like this would do to super charge the public’s curiosity and appetite for the phenomenon. Probably some fear too! 

 

I would watch the shit out of this movie.  

 

Maybe the movie could would out in… 2027! ;-) haha

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/darkestsoul on 2024-09-10 19:33:43+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/AURORASPECTRE91 on 2024-09-10 19:15:36+00:00.

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"UAP Tuesday is here. We discuss the news from ASK A Pol. Matt Laslo asked Sen Gillabrand about the next UFO hearing and she confirmed is is in the schedule for September. We talk about whether this will move the needle or not. We dive deeper into the disclorue conversation and bring up a recent interview on Danny Jones podcast. This and more with Kristian Harloff and Attack Peter."

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/fed0ra_p0rn on 2024-09-10 18:45:36+00:00.

Original Title: This passage from Richard Dolan's "UFOs and the National Security State: 1973-1991" seems relevant considering the discussion around Dick Cheney: "Secretary Dick Cheney was said to be strongly opposed, feeling that the administration had 'nothing to gain' (from a UFO disclosure)..."

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Realistic_Bee_676 on 2024-09-10 14:32:23+00:00.

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EXCLUSIVE: HarperCollins imprint William Morrow has snapped up North American publishing rights to a new memoir from Jay Stratton, former Director of the U.S Government’s secretive UFO program, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, who led investigations into UAP and non-human intelligence for 16 years.

Also greatly enthused about this timely title is producer Dan Farah of Farah Films (Ready Player One), which has the rights to produce any television or film adaptation.

During his time working as a senior intelligence official, Stratton led countless investigations of UAP and non-human intelligence, including the now famous “Tic Tac” UAP encountered by Navy fighter pilots and the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group in 2004. While much of his work is classified, the memoir promises to reveal all that can be lawfully disclosed, providing a first-hand account of the shocking discoveries, challenges, and breakthroughs that have marked the U.S Government’s investigation and understanding of UAP and non-human intelligence, as well as the profound effects on Stratton and his family.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/AgingWisdom on 2024-09-10 14:23:55+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/PositiveSong2293 on 2024-09-10 14:02:44+00:00.

Original Title: In the year 2011, a researcher named Edie Meireles took a series of intriguing photographs of what was believed to be an "extraterrestrial probe" in the Chapada Diamantina region (BA). One of them is called "the first selfie with a UFO in history."

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Riboflavius on 2024-09-10 09:18:45+00:00.

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Hey everyone,

I've been listening to some podcasts with Russell Targ and if I'd had to drink every time I heard the phrase "there are no secrets any more", I wouldn't be able to type this now.

If this was even, no pun intended, remotely true, then the whole "we can't reveal how much we know because we might give our adversaries a piece of the puzzle they need" excuse would be invalid. If there are no secrets, we know what they know and, because Targ also tells stories about the remote viewers in the USSR, so do at least some of our adversaries.

Furthermore, if remote viewing is so ridiculously easy and successful, why haven't the remote viewers among the UAP community found e.g. the craft that's so massive there's a building over it? Or a craft or base or whatever that hasn't been retrieved by a government yet and can be shown to the public?

I'm not saying Targ is lying, I don't know if he is. I'm saying that there are a bunch of weird inconsistencies and gaps if his story is true and what we hear about the program and the phenomenon is true.

What do you think?

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