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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/TommyShelbyPFB on 2024-08-27 17:20:13+00:00.

Original Title: Lue Elizondo on ABC News: Explains how the UFO coverup started during the Cold War and says a lot of people in the same gov't program as Lue experienced encounters, but only while they were in the program, not before or after.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/PaddyMayonaise on 2024-08-27 17:15:36+00:00.


So where I work we do have fun sharing conspiracy theories or “out there” ideas, but most of it is just fun and nonsensical break from the monotony of what is essentially an office job.

UFOs are my favorite go to when we get into these conversations.

The only connection any of these people have to UFO lore is what they’ve listened to on the Joe Rogan podcast. Grusch, Frevor, Bob Lazar, Travis Walton, etc.

Well, apparently everyone has listened to Elizondo’s episode and they’re all talking about it. Apparently only one (of about 8) had heard of him before this podcast and none knew he had a book that was just published.

I’m really hoping now we manage to get a Grusch/Elizondo episode in the next month or so. Would be really great for keeping the interest up and spreading awareness.

Just a random rant but it’s exciting to walk into work and just have everyone talking about it.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Spokraket on 2024-08-27 16:49:40+00:00.


There’s been talks about two factions in this disclosure that we are experiencing.

So “Collins elite” is the apparent name of the other side of the coin, said to be highly religious and that they think the UAP is demonic by nature.

I find it disturbing that a highly religious group is running parts of the Pentagon.

What are your thoughts about this group and what do we know about them?

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/wrexxxxxxx on 2024-08-27 14:57:47+00:00.


h/t MarikvR

In 2004, groups of “Tic Tac” UAP would drop off radar “60 miles north of… Guadalupe Island.”

In 2019, a group of UAP swarmed a Navy ship, then departed on a heading taking them **60 miles north of Guadalupe Island.**

What's there? A 10,000 ft radius dome exactly 60 miles north of Guadalupe Island

If the bizarre 2019 UAP “swarm” incidents 100+ miles off the California coast were drones, why did those “drones” travel, as a group, towards *the exact same location* where groups of UAP disappeared from radar during the well-known 2004 Nimitz incidents?

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An interesting read. Has the typical men in black/co-pilot gets grounded/etc. Etc. for seeing a tic tac while bringing a group of troops home from basic training. Also happened near a National Guard facility. What got me is that at the end of the article is a list of a bunch of incidents that reportedly happened in every U.S. state.

The NUFORC Article is available at:

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Original Title: Legal documents show Lue Elizondo, Jay Stratton and Travis Taylor founded a new company, "Quantum Frontier" in 2023. The Wyoming LLC, which promotes "reverse engineering" services, was transferred to Virginia in July 2024

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Original Title: NUFORC Report Describes Pilot's Encounter with 'Green Cigar-Shaped UFO' the Size of a Boeing 747: On the ground, after being approached by a man in a blue suit, the co-pilot decided to make a report and received "grounded".

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I think Gadi Schwartz is absolutely on the right side of the media circuit with what he’s doing. I still believe, however, that this needs to be story number ONE on the nightly news. You know, Lester Holt style. No frills, no bullshit.

Keep pushing and making more and more people aware and care!

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/letsberealforamoment on 2024-08-26 17:10:57+00:00.


The little boy has always been a believer, but his evidentiary standard is satsified with the crop circles in the corn.

It's implied the little girl has some sort of extra perception and she believes because her brother believes.

The Joaquin Phoenix character believes once he sees the video of the alien in Brazil (great scene by the way)

Mel Gibson does not believe until the very end, when the alien is in his living room with his son's body looking right at Mel Gibson as it is trying to kill his son lol. Beofre this point were the crop circles, the news coverage, them walking on this house, and trying to get inside, and him fighting with it behind a closed door. Although, Mel Gibson does take protective measures after the pantry incident but he doesn't full on believe until it is in his living room.

At one point in time, I would place myself with the Joaquin character, but with AI, i'm probably Mel Gibsons character.

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Robert Salas "UFOs sighted in Indonesia in 1959 were of various shapes and sizes. Some were egg-shaped, others like small pyramids, and still others emitted lights so bright they could be seen for miles. The jets sent to intercept the objects reported they could not catch up with them."

Hermann Oberth "UFOs are conceived and directed by intelligent beings. They are simply a superior kind of human. Their systems are guided by light, without friction, and they are what we will someday become."

Allen Dulles (Head of CIA) "Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs."

Mark Carlotto (Former Defense Analyst and Image Scientist) "There are interesting cases where ground-based radar tracked UFOs at very high speeds, in which case we have to ask whether they are real and what kind of craft they are."

Captain Terauchi (Japan Airlines, 1986) "A giant UFO, the size of two aircraft carriers, followed us for 32 minutes over the Alaska wilderness. The thing was twice the size of an aircraft carrier, I tell you, and it shot in front of our path and disappeared within a few seconds."

Wilbert Smith (Former Head of Project Magnet, Canadian Government) "Before we could do anything more, the Army, after conferring with U.S. officials, ordered the investigation stopped."

General John A. Samford (U.S. Air Force) "We have evidence that ships of great maneuverability and speed exist in the atmosphere."

Donald Keyhoe (U.S. Marine Corps Major, Director of NICAP) "UFOs are real and they may come from outer space."

Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter (First CIA Director) "Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense."

Colonel Charles Halt (Deputy Commander of Bentwaters Air Force Base, UK) "I have discussed this with the Secretary of the Air Force, and we are both in agreement that UFOs are a reality. They are controlled by intelligence, and they are not from this planet."

Captain Edward Ruppelt (Air Force Blue Book Chief, USAF) "Some of the best UFO sightings have not been made public, and for good reason. Some of the most important cases have been taken from Blue Book, and our investigators never saw them again."

Joe W. Kittinger (U.S. Air Force Interceptor Pilot) "I was flying at 40,000 feet when I was vectored to intercept an object that was reported to be flying at 70,000 feet. I made visual contact, but the object suddenly shot straight up at incredible speed and disappeared."

Admiral Lord Hill-Norton (Former Chief of Defense Staff, UK) "The UFO phenomenon is real, though the nature of the phenomenon is still unknown. I suspect that a thorough investigation would reveal an advanced intelligence behind the phenomenon."

General Benjamin Chidlaw (U.S. Air Defense Command) "We have a problem with UFOs. We don't know what they are, where they come from, or what their purpose is. But there have been enough sightings and experiences by highly credible individuals to convince me that UFOs are real."

General Nathan Twining (Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force) "The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious."

Major Donald E. Keyhoe (U.S. Marine Corps Retired) "I have discussed this matter with a number of top scientists, and all of them agree that UFOs exist and that they are not from this planet. I am convinced that UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin."

Wernher von Braun (NASA Scientist) "I am convinced that UFOs exist, but I have no idea where they come from or who they are. I can only say that they are guided by intelligence and are of a technology far beyond our own."

Wilhelm Reich (Psychiatrist and Scientist) "The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. Flying saucers are real. Too many good men have seen them that don’t have hallucinations."

Dr. Robert Sarbacher (Consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense) "It is my opinion that the UFO phenomenon represents something new and revolutionary. We are dealing with something that is controlled by an intelligence that is far superior to our own."

Gordon Cooper (Astronaut) "I have discussed this matter with top officials of the Air Force and NASA, and they are fully aware of the UFO phenomenon. They have been studying it for years, and there is no question in my mind that UFOs are real."

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin "There is something out there that was close enough to be observed, and what could it be? There are many mysteries out there, and this universe is so big, it’s hard to imagine that we're alone."

Gennady Strekalov (Cosmonaut) "UFOs are real. I saw one myself during a space mission in 1990. I was conducting an experiment when I noticed something unusual flying around our space station. It was definitely a UFO."

Senator Richard B. Russell (U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee) "While in the Soviet Union, I witnessed an unknown craft flying at incredible speed. The Soviet officers I was with were very disturbed by the event and asked me not to talk about it."

General Douglas MacArthur "The nations of the world will have to unite, for the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the Earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets."

President Ronald Reagan "I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world."

President Harry S. Truman "I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on Earth."

President Gerald Ford "I don't laugh at people any more when they say they've seen UFOs. I've seen one myself."

Vice President Dick Cheney "Well, if I had been briefed on that [UFOs], I'm sure it would have been classified."

President John F. Kennedy "We must insist upon full disclosure to the American people about the UFO phenomenon. The public has a right to know what is happening in our skies."

Lord Dowding (Air Chief Marshal, UK) "More than 10,000 sightings have been reported, the majority of which cannot be accounted for by any scientific explanation. I am convinced that these objects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nation on Earth."

Lieutenant Colonel Richard French (U.S. Air Force, Project Blue Book Investigator) "There are two kinds of UFOs: the ones we build, and the ones 'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and interspecies agreements."

Sergeant Karl Wolfe (U.S. Air Force) "In 1965, I was working at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia. I was a technician assigned to the lunar orbiter project. While I was working on the equipment, a colleague pointed out an image on the screen and said, 'Look at this!' I was shocked to see what looked like an alien base on the moon."

Navy Commander Bethune "I was flying from Iceland to Newfoundland when I saw a UFO. It was a large, metallic, disc-shaped craft that was hovering over the ocean. It followed us for about 20 minutes before disappearing at an incredible speed."

Astronaut John Glenn "What do you think about flying saucers? I have no idea what they are or where they come from, but I am certain they exist and are real."

Professor Felix Zigel (Moscow Aviation Institute) "The UFO problem is not only an American one. It is a world problem that must be solved if we are to maintain peace and security on this planet."

President Jimmy Carter "I don't laugh at people any more when they say they've seen UFOs. I've seen one myself."

Colonel Gordon Cooper, Mercury 9 Gemini 5 Astronaut

"I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth." Captain Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut

"I happen to be privileged enough to be in on the fact that we have been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomenon is real. It has been covered up by governments for quite some time now." Astronaut James Irwin, Apollo 15

"I looked out the window of our craft. We observed 10 or so lights. I am still uncertain as to what we saw, but I feel they were intelligently guided craft. I don't have proof but the evidence is getting stronger." Commander Marcinko, former Navy SEAL

"Historically, I’m a celebrity, there are hugely advanced civilizations out there that have nothing to do with the human race... I am just wondering why we humans, think we are so important in the grand scheme of things?" President Dwight D. Eisenhower

"The phenomenon of UFOs is real. I know that there are scientific organizations which study the problem. It must be treated seriously." President Richard Nixon

"I looked out the window and saw this white light. It was zigzagging around. It seemed to be pilotless and then, how many ever seen anything like that? It was the strangest and most eerie thing I’ve ever seen. That’s what I’ll have to say. I looked out again; minutes later a bright white light. We followed it to “wherever it led us, and lo and behold out of no where it veered sharply, and up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it." Admiral Lord Hill-Norton, Former Chief of Defence Staff, UK

"We must insist upon full access to all data recovered. For instance, in the cases the Army participated in and would not reveal to the world, what’s the point of having us in on the problem?" Colonel Charles Br...


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Go to 47:30 for the comments by Kirkpatrick. I have listed them below:

“That's why my NASA partners have been so important on this of if there's an extraterrestrial civilization, how did they find Earth? How did they get here? How are they refueling and moving around? And what are the top three most probable ways all of that happens, and what are the signatures associated with that document that in a peer reviewed paper, or papers peer reviewed, not just put on somebody's website, and then that gives you a grounding for that hypothesis. So now, if I have data that matches that signature. I can say that. But most of my data, in fact, all of my data, matches either the middle or the left. And I can tell you for certainty that we have absolutely no evidence that anything matches the extraterrestrial hypothesis. We have no evidence of any of that, all of the evidence we have and all of the observations we have, including ones where people say, I don't understand it, it looks like it's violating the laws of physics, I can guarantee you that's not. There are advanced state of the art technologies out there today that that can maneuver and flight controls, that don't have control surfaces that don't leave a trail, and they are being commercialized. “

Kirkpatrick’s argument essentially states that for any claim of extraterrestrial technology to be valid, it must be backed by peer-reviewed research that sets a baseline. However if no peer reviewed research currently exists that sets a baseline for what to look for with ET tech then AARO will always be justified in saying they have no evidence of ET tech. I don’t know why no one has ever brought this up before. Kirkpatrick has literally told us the playbook as to why AARO is justified in making those statements, even when confronted with anomalous data. Constant word salad with these folks.

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This past week in Disclosure:

Aug 20 – Harald Malmgren asserts he was informally briefed on "otherworld technologies" by CIA's Richard Bissel

Harald Malmgren, a former advisor to Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford as well as many global leaders, took to X to share an interesting tidbit related to UAP disclosure:

"60+ years ago I was provided highest level classifications to lead DOD work on nuclear weapons&anti-missile defense. Informally briefed on "otherworld technologies" by CIA's Richard Bissel (who had been in charge of Skunkworks, Area 51, Los Alamos, etc.) but sworn to secrecy."

Aug 22 – head of Indian Space Research Organization voices his personal opinion that he has"no doubt our planet is visited by ETs"

Dr. S. Somanath, the Chairman of the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) and a prominent figure in India's space program, appeared on a podcast and voiced a notably direct (personal) opinion he holds with regards to the existence of Non-Human Intelligence:

Podcaster: But do you think our planet is visited by extraterrestrials?

ISRO Chairman: Absolutely, no doubt about it. My conscience says yes, though I don’t have proof. As the Chairperson of ISRO, I’m telling you this. It stems from my earlier statement—there are definitely aliens out there in the universe. Aliens mean living systems and cultures in other parts of the universe. If they are ahead in technology by even just a thousand years, or 10,000 years, they would have definitely visited us.

Aug 23 – Lue Elizondo appears on the Joe Rogan Experience, and sits down for a lengthy interview with Ross Coulthart on NewsNation

Lue Elizondo sat down for a variety of interviews and podcasts over the past few days, most notably (at least in terms of length/depth of conversation) he appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience, and a NewsNation interview with Ross Coulthart.

Amongst other things, he reiterated (in no uncertain terms) claims very similar to those brought forth by David Grusch during his 2023 Congressional testimony.

Essentially – a Non-Human Intelligence presence (of as yet undetermined specific origin) exists on Earth, and elements within the USG have long been aware of this reality and have co-ordinated a longstanding covert UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.

Aug 25 – Former head of NOAA and Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet corroborates Lue Elizondo's reference to a highly unusual USO incident

Retired Read Admiral Gallaudet took to LinkedIn to corroborate one of the claims Lue Elizondo made about an Unidentified Submerged Object incident that was detected by Navy equities:

"One of the most astonishing observations by my fellow UAP research & disclosure advocate Lou Elizondo is at 44:00 - 45:30 in his recent interview on The Joe Rogan Experience where he describes 'a high-resolution video of a USO (unidentified submerged object, or undersea UFO) going by an offshore oil derrick in the water with the speed of 450-500 knots. The USO was bigger than the oil derrick.' For my ocean science and technology colleagues, if this sounds too fantastic to be true, I can confirm it from other credible sources, and both the USS Maury and USCG Bittersweet had similar encounters in the Pacific and Atlantic at the end of WWII."

Things to look out for in the near future:

August/September

  • According to Senator Gillibrand – a public hearing in line with AARO's latest report can be expected soon, saying –"I’m hoping July, and if not then September. But I’m trying to do July.”
  • Speaking with Askapol, Reps. Luna and Burchett indicated that the next UAP hearing is likely to come after the August recess

Beyond/currently unknown

  • Following the UAP hearing on the 26th of July, Members of Congress have called for a select committee with subpoena authority, to “go about the task of collecting information from the Pentagon and elsewhere” on unidentified flying objects. There have been conflicting messages from various Members of Congress on whether this is likely to happen anytime soon. Note – a select subcommittee was formally requested on March 13th.
  • Reps. Moskowitz, Luna, and Burchett have repeatedly stated their intent to hold field hearings to overcome stonewalling from the Pentagon and military establishment "I think we [Congress] should try to get into one of these places [housing UAP evidence]...and if they won't let us in I think we should have a field hearing right outside the building...and the military will have to explain why that is." – Rep. Moskowitz (D) It is currently unknown when exactly we might expect that to occur, however as of Jan 12 – Rep. Luna confirmed: "I feel confident that we have enough evidence to move forward with our first field hearing. We will be announcing details soon."
  • Several journalists have indicated that first-hand witnesses of the alleged UAP legacy programs are in the process of providing testimony/evidence to the relevant authorities (e.g. the IC IG) and/or are on the verge of making public statements in the near future (Example 1example 2example 3example 4)
  • David Grusch has received additional clearances through DOPSR to discuss some of his (alleged) first-hand knowledge of Legacy programs. He has mentioned he may be covering more of this information in an upcoming Op-Ed

Skimmed through this post but need a quick refresher on how we got to this point? Check out this handy Disclosure Timeline to get up to speed.

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Original Title: This 1997 interview is the only official TV appearance that Captain Hollanda did exposing the classified program he led in back 1977 called 'Operation saucer' a study on the violent UFO attacks in Colares, Brazil. Less than a month after this appearance he was found strangled in his house. (AI Dub)

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