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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/PyroIsSpai on 2024-08-19 17:26:34+00:00.
My take is super duper simple.
1) I saw a flying saucer in daylight and was not alone. No tech at time and place exists that can do that and still does not. Flying saucers are real. Origin unknown.
2) The US Senate in bipartisan fashion has advanced pro-UFO disclosure law (AARO v1, UAPDA v1, UAPDA v2) three consecutive years in a row. I know much more about Federal politics still than UFOs by an order of magnitude. When I say that is fucking batshit insane unprecedented for BOTH the UFO and bipartisan angle in 2022-2024, I am still underselling it. The US Senate twice in a row, 2023 and 2024, affirmed forcefully that we need a law to dig out NHI/UFO tech from the military, IC and private companies. Say that bold sentence out loud right now. That itself for me is soft disclosure.
3) There is immense volumes of leaked and declassified government data and affiliation of major key serious military figures like Twining, Manhattan project leaders and more deeply involved into the "woo" connections. It's a bottemless well of this stuff for some reason, over entire generations. If humans are not psychic or capable of such things (I have no fixed opinion as I lack any/all evidence) there is no reason to assume other species are not something we can call "psychic". Sharks have electroreception. Various species have magnetoreception. The idea of life being unique to Earth is ludicrous simply due to the principle of mediocrity, which I compared to UFO/NHI concepts here. We can't know what a species not of this Earth may have as evolved traits.
4) The US Congress has been told repeatedly (one example, another here) from 2022-today that there are many physical craft with detected energy signatures doing things the military can't explain and that exceed their known tech, and that they don't know who made, deployed and operated that craft. Everything from the 2017 videoes to endless range fowler reports to so much more. We have disclosed evidence of secret US military orders and data affirming UFOs/saucers as real, as seen here and here.
5) The US military took the UFO topic deadly seriously in public media from 1947-1954 and then suddenly treated it all like a fake joke in public, all the while internally--from still more declassified data over time--just as seriously as they did from 1947-1954. They again began treating it seriously in public post-2017.
Bullet points 1-5 are incontrovertibly true. Anyone who says it is not is lying to your face.
The only logical conclusion then is that unless those military brass are openly committing perjury and lying to Congress in open session about not knowing the origination of that tech, the following is 100% true:
- UFOs are physical and give off energies we can detect and observe.
- Flying saucers are real.
- We don't know who made them, but it's not the US military/associated industries. It's not our peers or our adversaries.
- Their tech does things we cannot explain today.
- We must assume the military is not openly lying to Congress under oath, committing felonies.
Which leaves two logical conclusions and only two:
- An unknown private human party or organization of people has been deploying literal "super tech" since WW2 that far, far exceeds all known human tech and science to a point that they may as well be flying around Star Trek ships.
- NHI, genesis could be anything.
From that, item number 1 is illogical and implausible because of a simple question:
- How many people from the design of the platform to laying down the airframe to manufacture, metallurgy, and all related technologies to trial to launch to deploy to maintenance and repair, nevermind the costs, were required to field one single United States military F-35 fourth generation fighter? Thousands of people? Tens of thousands? How many billions?
Now answer this:
- How does that human, labor and capital cost work out to deploy a fleet of flying saucers in 1947?
- Where did you build them?
- Who built them?
- With what financing?
- With what staff?
- Where were they deployed from?
- Where were they maintained from?
- Why hasn't a single person leaked out the advanced government or industry super science? Not once?
You will quickly find it beyond implausible. "But wait, we kept the U2 spy plane and Manhattan project secret!" Not really. Both were compromised but ineffectually, and we still made them. There were a hundred thousand people involved.
You think you're fielding multiple flying saucers and tic tacs and somehow getting 70 to 80 years of people numbering in the thousands if not by now hundreds of thousands to keep it secret? Where is this secret US government or private industry space where we do all this?
It's sure not Area 51, Dugway or Wright-Paterson or the Pantex site. When is the last time anyone saw queues of commuters on the scale of a ten thousand strong labor force above their normal complement going into those places? Can't hide or classify the public movement of humans at scale. Where is the housing to support such a massive work force over time? Schools? Did anyone ever find a ramp up of pubic utilties in any area that is both remote and support this? New hospitals? All the extra schools and public education budget increases to sustain this with local tax base increases? Would a massive high-tech educated workforce be fine working in... northern middle of nowhere? Nope. There's a reason why places like our bleeding edge skunks works type facilities are an hours drive from Los Angeles. Smart people aren't going to move en masse to rural Wherever, and if they did, that cannot be hidden whatsoever.
The US Census proves we don't have a big secret US workforce somewhere.
Work it out however you want. There is no human staffing that fits this problem. We certainly don't have a big secret psychic US population that would work this, to circle back to the endless "woo" angle that permeates this end to end even on the government level, to whatever all that means in truth. If we had the equivalent of even "Dollar Store X-Men" loose on Earth, there is no possibility this would be kept secret all these ages our species has existed. None.
So, we know that:
- UFOs are real. The government has given in on this.
- The government says it's not them, our allies or our enemies.
- There is no big secret US workforce to do all this, or allies or enemies.
- There is no equivalent site or location that could plausibly manage all this.
- The United States Congress is adamant our government/industry has NHI stuff.
That leaves one scenario...
NHI.
What is your take on how you have come to and support your current position?
Show your homework like this.
