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[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 88 points 4 months ago (7 children)

In it's 'war against Hamas' Israel has now bombed 3 countries that has no Hamas

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 43 points 4 months ago (29 children)

The problem with the Israeli attacks i gaza is not the attacks themselves. Israel should have the right to defend themselves on all sides.

The problem is, that in Palestine they are using this as an excuse to kill as many civilians as they can get away with. This is genocide. They are more or less regulating the population of Palestine, and arguing that they in reality are fighting Hamas. The civilians are unfortunate accidents (that more or less keep on happening day in and day out)

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Iran has been fighting a proxy conflict against Israel through the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas since 1985.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict

[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How is a state that's largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It's not a Israel Iran proxy war. It's a us Iran proxy war

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 20 points 4 months ago (15 children)

And the US has been doing the same for Israel

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

… Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Perhaps, but they'd do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. -- this is the problem.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They absolutely will. On the other hand the Houthis attacked a Russian ship the other day so same I guess.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Technically, Hezbollah is a proxy for Israel.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How so? My understanding is that Hezbollah is supported by Iran, Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Lebanon.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most of their money and support is coming through Lebanon. And the Moussad is injecting massive ammounts of graft into the Lebanese government in order to destabilize it.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah Russia does this trick. Ukraine is still funding the war against itself but traitors are able to operate within the state.

This shit is cancer

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 15 points 4 months ago

Possibly because this is retaliation for drone strikes and not part of the "war against Hamas."

[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People have been warning from day 1 about the possibility of a regional escalation.

Apparently you cannot spend months acting in a way that neighboors who already don't like you find morally reprehensible without some of those neighbors inserting themselves into the conflict.

The real question is how long can Iran avoid getting dragged into that. And if Iran gets involved directly, will we be able to contain this to a regional war, or will this small decades old conflict between parties whose total population is only about 12 million become the trigger for world war 3.

[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io -1 points 4 months ago

It's less the people and more the trade routes and resources. Some would argue the most important in the world

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago

God I hope so. I had a dream once that the entirety of the land between the black sea and the gulf of aden was glassed smooth, and finally the world was at peace.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

Maybe someone mumbled "they have hummus" and everyone else just rolled with it?

[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

3?

You forgot one at least. Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen. Maybe you can find the common denominator within these 4.

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