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[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I dont know, I remember my dad saying "what a scorcher" in 1978 (or so he told me later when I was both alive and could understand spoken language) so you never know, you never never know

the fact that the only places in the world that have people who even want to continue to live in denial are the US, UK and Australia cough Murdoch's* cough makes me want to go outside and lie in a pile of wet leaves

I'm aware you didnt ask, but I heard an interview with some asshole from Florida yesterday and he said "I'm against this whole globalist shit!" and I thought for a moment what an alien or even say god would make of someone saying "one species? humanity? NO- this one group here, this is us and they are them".. and it just became so clear to me, once again, that people who can't move beyond the idea of tribes are just simply less evolved than other people, and as little as natural evolution is still functioning, I'm hoping against hope that it still works a little, and the more intellectually developed will leave the less developed behind.

while I'm dreaming, I'd also like an infinite bank account thank you

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting stream of consciousness. I agree with the whole tribalism will kill us all concept. Especially when resources get more scare, people start migrating, people then start blaming migrants for the lack of resources, then nationalism grows and we get more tribal.

https://xkcd.com/1732/ Check out the xkcd graph if you want to see the data for global temperatures dating back through 1978, just in case you wanted to know the temp for what "a scorcher" meant. This graph goes up to 2016 with projections for the future, so even this graph isn't a complete pic. I am sure if you add to 2023 then line would move more to the right.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm suprised my gushing sarcasm didnt come through... my dad didn't say 78 was "a scorcher" at all, just riffing. probably should include the /s thing more often

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Ahh. Sure is a scorcher today, Wally. Yeah I think sarcasm is the hardest to read, especially through text. It makes sense now. Thanks.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

We have them here in Canada too. Though we do get Murdoch shit by proxy from the US, I think a large factor is simply people's emotional attachment to the ICE.

I've seen it with all kinds of technology. People are experts in some obsolete technology and refuse to adapt to the new technology because it means their knowledge will be useless.

[–] Stilicho@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think the tribalism thing you mention is more inherent self interest than actual stupidity. "If other people somewhere else are worse off, who cares as long as they are making your shoes and smartphones" type of deal.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I agree with that, but I believe that inability to think beyond "I got mine" belies a lack of intellect, or education, or both.

[–] Stilicho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, but generally an economic welfare is derived from exploiting other countries in one way or another. If you aren't willing to act on such moral depravity, someone else will be and outcompete you. People are able to justify anything to themselves morally, so the "I got mine" attitude makes sense to any sociopath out there.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People making your shoes and smartphones are better off than if they werent, which is what people against globalism often don't want.

They want those people to stay poor for America (or wherever) First.

[–] Mayoman68@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But their countries are only poor because of the imperialism of rich countries for centuries. You're saying they should be grateful for rich economies helping them develop, when those rich economies are the reason they are poorer to begin with.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's certainly one way to look at people choosin to not be subsistence farmers

[–] Mayoman68@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not talking about individual choices but rather the social factors influencing those choices, please read a history book

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I'm willing to bet I know more about this topic, historical and modern, than you do.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your dad's anecdotal perception of heat in 1 localized area of the planet isn't going to provide the larger, global average temperature.

[–] brimnac@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago