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Let me start off by saying: If you just want to have a working system to do your thing with minimal effort, Slackware isn't for you (anymore).

Running Slackware today is like being gifted a Ford Model T by a weird, bearded museum curator, and then finding out that after some minor modifications and learning how to drive it, you can keep up with any modern car on the road. Only it has no ABS, AC, power steering, starter motor, crumple zones, airbags or seatbelts.

Most people who still run it (by any realistic estimate, fewer than 10000 people in the world now) have been running it since the 90's and follow the advice not to change a running system to the letter. So why should anyone who hasn't studied CompSci in Berkeley in the 90's try it today?

First of all, the most widely known criticism (it has no dependency resolution) is a bit of a misunderstanding. Slackware is different. The recommended installation method is a full installation, which means you install everything in the repository up front. That way, all dependencies are already resolved. And you have a system you can use equally well on a desktop or server. It uses 20GB but disk space is essentially free now.

What if you need something that isn't in the repo? Well, do whatever the fuck you want. Use Slackbuilds, which aren't officially supported but endorsed by Slackware's dev. Use Sbopkg, a helper script with dependency resolution very much like Arch's AUR helpers. Use the repos of sister distros like SalixOS that include dependency resolution. Install RPM packages. Install Flatpaks. Unpack tarballs wherever you want them. Go the old school way of compiling from source and administering your own system yourself. Slackware doesn't get in the way of whatever you want to do, cause there's nothing there to get in the way.

It's the most KISS distro that exists. It's the most stable one, too. Any distro-specific knowledge you acquire will stay valid for decades cause the distro hardly ever changes. It's also the closest to "Vanilla Linux" you can get. Cause there really isn't anything there except for patched, stable upstream software and a couple of bash scripts.

Just be mindful of the fact that Slackware is different (because the Linux ecosystem as a whole has moved on from its roots).
One example:
Up-to-date Slackware documentation isn't on Google, it's in text files written by the guy who maintained the distro for 31 years, which come preinstalled with your system. Or on linuxquestions.org, where the same guy posts, asks for input from users, and answers questions regularly.

It's still a competent system, if you have the time and inclination to make it work. And it's a blast from the past, where computing was about collaborating with like-minded freaks on a personal level. And I love that.

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[–] Charadon@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Regular Slackware user here.

The biggest reason I use Slackware personally is that it's the only distro I'd consider a "full system" out of the box. What that means, is that I install it, and I don't really install much outside of the repos.

For example, the kde set comes with pretty much every KDE app. I do mean all of them. With other distros, I either have to go hunting for what packages are named what in the repos and spend hours getting everything setup and installed. While on Slackware, I pick the partitions, install, and I have a full desktop with everything I could possibly need.

Some would say "Oh, but that would take a lot of disk space.", and funny thing about that, is with BTRFS compressio enabled. A full install of Slackware is only 4gb =P

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nice to hear from a current slackware user. Quite often these threads are populated by arch and gentoo users speculating or reminiscing about a time they used it once for a month while they were still in school.

[–] Charadon@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You'll also be probably shocked to hear that i'm a Slackware user in their 20's =P

Been using Slackware going on 3 years now.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really. The only people I expect to have time to use Slackware non professionally are students.

[–] Charadon@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a student, I got a full time job =P

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

I stand corrected.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Charadon@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

KDE was an example, but a lot of other things come out of the box with Slackware. And of course, that package isn't a thing that comes out of the box.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

Damn, squeezing all of that down to 4gb is impressive!

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You using slapt-get for updates?

[–] Charadon@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago

Only for 3rd party repos, but for main updates, I use slackpkg since it automatically prompts me for updating configs and all that.