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[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 140 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You may make fun of it, but the reality of it is even funnier: Ukrainian army is probably occupying gas and oil distribution hub for Hungary, Slovakia and partially for Turkey.

So now Putler has few bad options:

  • Try to liberate it which would probably mean destroying it (using usual Russian tactics).
  • Do nothing and look bad in Russia.
  • Make some concessions to UA and look bad in Russia.

This will be fun.

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 59 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

note: ukrainians can just mine all that equipment at their convenience, they hold ground there. in case of any risk of russian approach they can just blow it up to smithereens, because contract for transit through this pipeline ends this december, neither side wants to extend it, and the only side effect is hungary going without gas supply - and it's closed already anyway

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they do that, they get on the bad side of all the countries that depend on that gas.

But, if it's destroyed by Russian artillery as the Russians try to re-take the territory, the blame falls on the Russians.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

that'd be mostly slovakia and austria

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There's no way they actually occupy it long-term. They only deployed a couple battalions worth of troops. But it does send a strong message.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly as second fronts go… if the opportunity presented, the clear plan would be to take the rail hub at Kursk and block in the city while rolling SE. It would create a long logistics problem for the invasion, and cause invasion troops to need to reroute NW or face attack on an open flank.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

They could also destroy as much oil & rail infrastructure as they can while they're there. Plus, this might divert Russian attention in the South like in 2022. In that case, Ukraine could do another push for Zaporizhia or Mariupol and cut off Russian supplies to Crimea and Kherson

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And serves as plausible reason that it gets "accidentally" destroyed in a retreat.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 months ago

They would definitely have good reasons to hide endless mines that could destroy it from a distance

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Makes Russia defend their whole border instead of just inside Ukraine.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 2 months ago

That was super helpful

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Poor Putin... Looks like a door has closed for him, let's hope god opens a window...

Wink wink

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ukrainian army is probably occupying gas and oil distribution hub for Hungary, Slovakia and partially for Turkey.

Is that selective, or are all the shitbirds coincidentally on the same pipeline?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much everyone is on the same pipeline, it's just that most have weaned themselves off of it. So this would also hurt Germany if Germany was still as dependent on Russian gas as Hungary.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago

Even better, it's their fault.

[–] cybermass@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Considering the cost of building a pipeline, I'd say the goal was mainly to get it connected to as many top importers as possible