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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Joseph Stiglitz is an American economist, not a dictatorship, and he's advocating for better capitalism.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wasn't calling Joseph Stiglitz a dictatorship, I was calling Russia and China dictatorships and they often use the same words to different ends. The fact that this is crossposted to Hexbear and lemmy ML isn't doing the post any favors, either, those places are flowing with pro-CCP propoganda.

As much as this can be a productive conversation analyzing the faults of the system we live in to reform and fix it, it can also be used as justification for voting against our interests, violence, and subterfuge. It's unfortunate, but that is our context.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is not an article about communism or socialism or dictatorships or any of the other things you're talking about.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No but it is an article whose headlines use the same words as pretend-anarchist/socialist dictatorships when they try to stoke flames online to promote political division and violence.

Jfc I feel like a skipping record, how do you not understand the context of the conversation you're in? Did you get dropped off in the middle?

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think I don't understand the context because you're not responding in context, you're just continuing an imaginary conversation you've had elsewhere because you saw some keywords.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You seem really upset about me discussing how genuine this sentiment is and where it leads. Are you feeling defensive about something?

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you questioning whether Joseph Stiglitz is a secret communist? Because that's the only genuine sentiment at play for your top level comment. If you instead wanted to call out some other poster and argue with them about communism, maybe you should have replied to that person?

Or maybe you should have read the article before you commented so you wouldn't have to be trying to figure out a post hoc justification about the nonexistent context making your comment correct all along.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol nah, it could just be coincidence, but imagine this hypothetical:

If the only two times you hear a phrase like "you should buy white tires" was from Joseph Stiglitz and a demon whom wants you to off yourself, and the demon said it first, how would that make you feel about the message?

The fact that it is one of their main talking points or assertions while attacking the USA shows there is some nuanced truth to the statement.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

kill enough people, eventually you'll get a genuine piece of shit who deserved to die.

similarly, if you talk enough shit (and they do), you'll eventually be right. kind of like a stopped clock, you know? shitty people can be right about things, and that doesn't make them any less shitty. arguably doesn't even make them right.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The part that normalizes mass murder.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

no, its pretty normal. lotta people will get pissed about it if you object. ship's already sailed on that one. we swim through a river of innocent blood. only ever that, our entire lives. pointing out the statistics of the more obvious instances of it isn't pro or anti.

im not a fan of this state of affairs, BTW. just where we are. is≠aught.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Idk you seem pretty stoked about it

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

everybody always told me to be happy, be more positive, see silver linings.

but that seems to upset them more than just being glum all the time ever did. almost like the only thing the kinds of people who get upset by me mentioning the world being crap just hate that I'm acknowledging a reality they would rather keep hidden, so they can keep their shitty exploitative bullshit going guilt-free.