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[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

and both are described as SDUC UHS-I cards that are “built for tomorrow’s smartphones, gaming devices, drones, cameras, and laptops.”

Gaming devices: ✅️
Drones: ✅️
Cameras: ✅️
Smartphones: ❌️

Basically every current flagship phone, and you know that's what they mean, has done away with expandable memory....

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Which is utter bullshit. Especially since a lot of lower end phones have the option for dual sim or one sim and sd. There is literally no reason for flagships to not have that and make file transfering easier.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or a headphone jack, yes, a large number of people have wireless earbuds....but the audio quality off them isn't amazing, and goddammit I wanna plug my really nice headphones in, or connect to a stereo without needing to use a Bluetooth dongle or....or....fuck....idk....just stupid. The big players saw apple cutting all that away(barring expandable memory, they never had that as far as I know) and said fuck what people want, apple can dictate what their customers want, and we want to too! And then getting a device with enough on-board storage is hundreds of extra capitalism tokens. It's a fuckin mess....

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's sad that because most people dont care about these things we dont get to enjoy them either.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But then how will they upcharge you for additional storage or push you to their monthly cloud storage solution?

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Exactly. I forgot to write valid reason.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I still have an S9 with notification LED and expandable storage. I recently upgraded the SD card to 512gb.

I live in fear of this phone dying, and me having to get something disappointing to replace it.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

performs secret S9 handshake

Mine's in a drawer with the battery removed. If I need a backup phone it's always there. I upgraded about a year and a half ago to the S20FE as it was the most recent with expandable memory. I don't hate it, but it's certainly no where near as good for it's time as the S9 was. My major gripe? The ringtone is so quiet that I often can't hear it from my pocket in a silent room. Which is absolutely ridiculous as the speaker's decently loud. The only way to make notification volume louder is to put a custom ROM on it. I'm perfectly happy to do that, just need to hold off until November when warranty ends, just in case something happens that isn't my fault.

Edit: goddamn I miss the notification LED.......

LG V60 is newer and has an SD slot. That was my last phone and I miss it so much. Next contenders are Motorola G Stylus or bite the bullet and get an Xperia 1 V or VI

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly, you can't really compare the modern phone memory vs sd card memory anymore.

For pure storage ya, it doesn't really matter. For using it for anything more than that, it's honestly too slow.

UFS 4.0 Sequential Read Speed: Up to 4,200 MB/s Sequential Write Speed: Up to 2,800 MB/s Latency: Very low, making it ideal for high-speed data transfer and multitasking in mobile devices. Usage: Commonly used in high-end smartphones, tablets, and other mobile devices where speed and efficiency are critical.

SDUC UHS-I Sequential Read Speed: Up to 104 MB/s Sequential Write Speed: Typically around 70-90 MB/s, though the maximum theoretical speed can go up to 104 MB/s. Latency: Higher compared to UFS 4.0, which can impact performance in tasks requiring quick access to data. Usage: Used primarily in SD cards, which are common in cameras, drones, and other devices requiring expandable storage.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, on-board is stupid fast. I don't need stupid fast to hold my photos and videos for work, or my 100+gb of music for on the go that I change up semi-regularly. What I use my sd for is pure storage, and I now don't want to further upgrade to a new phone as I either have to pay through the nose for storage, or sacrifice some device power and build quality to be able to have expandable memory. You cannot with a straight face tell me phones don't need expandable memory, because they really do. I can't even count how many time my wife has had poor/no reception and was trying to show me a photo from years ago, but her iPhone couldn't grab a high quality image from the cloud. On a road trip, her Spotify sometimes doesn't work due to no signal/roaming. I currently don't have that problem. Most of the music I am listening to frequently is on my sd card, I have backups of ROMs for if I wanna play an SNES or DS game or whatever, I have the important photos from the last decade. It's all just there because I can slap a 512gb sd into my phone.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm def not defending the big phone companies. There could be creative ways to mitigate pure storage vs fast storage, similarly to computer DRAM vs NVME 4.0.

I think another point I want to add is that you're an outlier. Out of all my friends with iPhones and Android phones, they are not ripping roms and downloading their music from CDs.

Normies are kinda dumb and don't fully utilize their phones.

These phones are geared towards those normies. Modern phone makers don't consider you as part of their demographic.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Modern phone makers don't consider you as part of their demographic.

Ouch....fair, but ouch....