this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2024
78 points (98.8% liked)
Linux
47941 readers
1269 users here now
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.
Rules
- Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
- No misinformation
- No NSFW content
- No hate speech, bigotry, etc
Related Communities
Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Honestly, I just use Kubuntu. It just works, out of the box, with no fuckery involved and I can customize it as I want. You can read more about what I think about immutable distros in my blog post
(In reply to the post) Actually, I’ve found my immutable distro of choice (Silverblue) to be a lot of fun to tinker in (not with), but you just have to accept that tinkering does work a bit different here, with toolbox/containers instead of your actual host system to install most stuff you want to try etc. on
While your blogpost isn't completely right, it's also not completely wrong.
You can absolutely customize image based distros, just as much as package manager based ones. You just need to do it from upstream, to modify the image itself, not from bottom-up like usually.
uBlue is the best example. There are already hundreds of available customized images around, including for Hyprland, Deepin, and much more.
That's why immutable is often considered the wrong term for it. Image based, or atomic, is way better fitting.
One of the biggest pros, apart from the lack of maintenance needed (updating, etc.) is the reproducibility.
It's very similar to Android, where every phone is the same.
Therefore, every bug is the same too, which is why the devs can roll out patches that fix everyone's install at once.
Also, every update is basically a "reinstall lite", so no package drift occours.
This makes them way less buggy in my experience.
I used the normal Fedora KDE spin for example, and after a few months there often came weird bugs that only affected my install.
Since the time I use Atomic, none of those problems came back.
Even if you decide to utilize BTRFS-snapper, which you suggested, the underlying system drifts apart from the original install.
Also, instead of Kubuntu, I would recommend the Fedora KDE spin or just Debian with KDE, if you really want to use something traditional.
I just don't see any reason to not run Kinoite compared to a non-atomic distro, and it will only get better in the future.
Honestly, I use X, Y and Z
It works out of the box (basically everyone here)