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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For decades we’ve been hearing about this industrial genocide of Uyghur but their population continues to grow,

Literally the same argument Israeli simps use to claim there's no Palestinian genocide.

You can reject the evidence from multiple sources over the course of almost a decade now over and over again because you want to simp for fascists, but it doesn't change facts.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The reality is you're rejecting all the evidence against this because it would make your worldview much more difficult, you believe you know the truth and so reject any other argument out of hand. This is very common, Alex Jones fans believe they have evidence of a NWO conspiracy, your belief is more reasonable because it's pushed by western media snd political establishments but it's pretty much the same game.

Do you reject the evidence from multiple sources that lizard people rule the world? Of course you reject it because claims of evidence no matter how repeatedly they're made add up tnothing if they're all just feeding off their own fantasy.

Is china heavy handed? Yes. Do I think s lot of their actions in Xinjiang are immoral? Yes. Is there evidence of a genocide, no.

How far have you actually looked into the evidence beyond articles in outlets you wouldn't trust taking about issues you actually have detailed knowledge of? The guardian has misrepresented every antiestablishment group they report on but you think they'll be fair to the CCCP? And they're one of fhe most sympathetic, in what world would the US state department say 'actually our main enemy isn't as bad as people say, really they're fairly reasonable especially xomaoired to our own interactions with Islamic terrorists...'

But it's also why they don't really talk about it, they don't want to get caught in lies - remember the US flexing on Russia with their super accurate intel? They'd love to do that to china and if there was good evidence to have they'd have it. This is why all the big claims are based on hearsay from unreliable sources or wild leaps of imagination based on insignificant pictures.

You're sure there's huge amounts of evidence but you can't think of a single bit that has any substance - exactly like the conspiracy loons when they say 'Google FEMA Cano death squads' instead of pointing to their favorite smoking gun because they know you'll just get lost in a sea of people promising theirs strong evidence but never actually getting round to showing it.

As for people using the same demographic argument for Isreal, Isreal isn't building schools and providing healthcare the difference is pretty obvious when you actually compare them - but that doesn't occur to you because you don't actually know any details about the situation in China, which is weird considering how often you've read articles and memes taking about it... almost like they lack vital information because they only want to show one side....