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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That conventional political wisdom is getting less applicable with every year since the hell-date of 2016?

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, unprecedented event after unprecedented event. Still you could've been vindicated if anything mildly unfortunate had happened before the DNC. Like if Harris picked a different VP, if Vance was actually in any way adept, etc. And hey, knock on wood, but you could still be right in the end -- we probably shouldn't count our chickens before they hatch.

Good on you though for being a good sport about your previous comments. I was on the "drop out" side (not that Biden would drop out, but I thought pretty much anyone else would have a better chance), but at the end of the day I kinda think we're all talking out of our asses to a certain degree, because political science isn't actually a science at all.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's a wild time for sure. If I knew senators were going to quote 4chan when discussing policies... Man what a time.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's actually really great! 1000 kudos to you

Why do you think political wisdom wasn't applicable in 2016 and hasn't been since?

I think that's is really one of the most important things we need to try and understand and I don't think it's mainly due to the Internet being a factor.

My guess is it's moreso due to the influence of money on political campaigns, the influence of mega-corporations on the job market, and all the offshoring of jobs in the last few decades. The terrible state of our education system really doesn't help either

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Why do you think political wisdom wasn’t applicable in 2016 and hasn’t been since?

I think that’s is really one of the most important things we need to try and understand and I don’t think it’s mainly due to the Internet being a factor.

The internet, globalism, the collapse of Rhine Capitalism in favor of neoliberalism and reactions against it, the lack of a clear ideological 'enemy' to face... it could be any number of things. All I know for sure is that we're living in 'interesting times', and it'll likely continue to be 'interesting' for a while before any new 'conventional' wisdom can be made.