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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah though I’ll say two things in our defense: 1) it was a reasonable stance given the information we had, and 2) we’ve been some of the most proud to accept and admit that we were wrong people I’ve ever seen talking politics on the internet.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I disagree on #1, it only seemed like a reasonable stance because you were not exposed to information that would contradict it and were never trained to analyze political bias so you wouldn't realize that the avoidance of the topic was significant.

I double-minored in Futures Studies and Political Science during postgrad, and predicted that the Democrat incumbent would have to drop out of the race to give their party a chance all the way back in 2016 when the DNC conspired against Bernie's campaign. For those of us who know how to read between a propagandist's lines, this has been an inevitability for a long time.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So you’re saying that if we have a phd in this we would be expected to know better? Pardon me, I only got a bs in something unrelated to political science so when I look at the political situation I attempt to see what is most realistically close to what I want. Seeing as I didn’t see experts coming out of the woodwork on this, and instead saw a party with a tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory considering throwing away an incumbent advantage on a president I’d been surprised on how much I approved of his actions after I’d held my nose for him in 2020, I guess I just think that for yokel voters like me it was a reasonable perspective because the only arguments I saw were basically “he’s too old and he’s fucked”. Also it sure seemed unlikely to happen and a bit late to demand it.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So you’re saying that if we have a phd in this we would be expected to know better?

Nah, I'm saying that Americans aren't taught about politics, they're lucky if they can make it through high school with a basic understanding of how the state is arranged.

A real education system would make American politics much less predictable, because it would empower Americans to shape their own future rather than merely being subject to corporate whims.