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To discuss how to grow and manage communities / magazines on Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed and Sublinks

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Created this account so I could create the community. Decided on lemm.ee because my main account is on aussie.zone, which does not allow community creation (and limits its communities to things about Australia). Figured lemm.ee is better than lemmy.world due to the latter's performance/federation issues.

!aom@lemm.ee

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused, isn't that just a two-step version of the link I provided?

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Mbin and others might have issues with Lemmy created links

But shouldn't the plain !aom@lemm.ee be enough? Not sure about the link above, I've seen original lucifer post those before, never really investigated why

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the target community may not exist with a direct link as youve posted.

when you push it through what seems to be a universal search url: /search?q=!community @ host . tld, it forces the remote host to create the community should it not already exist.

[–] Zagorath@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, I didn't even realise you could do relative links like that in Lemmy.

It's a shame post IDs aren't globally unique so you could do something like that with individual posts.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s a shame post IDs aren’t globally unique so you could do something like that with individual posts.

As you can search for posts and find them in a similar way, that could actually work

[–] Zagorath@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah sort of, but it's not quite as convenient as me being able to take lemm.ee/post/41243313 and change it to aussie.zone/post/41243313. Obviously, for that to work, the IDs would have to be non-sequential: probably the easiest/dumbest way to do it would be with UUIDs, which are pretty massive to use in a URL, so I don't really blame the designers for doing it how they did. But it would be nice.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

the target community may not exist with a direct link as youve posted.

Indeed, I'm just used to refresh if it's the case, after the refresh the community is there. Interesting to see a link that does that on its own

[–] Emotional_Series7814@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mbin user here, link in the OP kicks me to lemm.ee while originallucifer's link lets me find it on Mbin

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, what about mine?

Yours also allows me to open it on Mbin.

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

OP's link is bad - they've created a direct link to the community on lemm.ee and named that link !aom@lemm.ee, rather than just typing !aom@lemm.ee. Lemmy and PieFed can both handle the link, but it seems that Mbin is struggling with it.

A proper ! link should work on Mbin - you've previously said that Mbin has been configured to point ! links to '/search?', so an unknown community gets resolved.

As for solving the problem of Lemmy throwing a generic error page whilst its backend is busy resolving unknown communities, that's a UX issue for the devs to fix, or for the users to know that they need to press 'refresh'.

That both Mbin and Lemmy have a '/search' endpoint is more of a coincidence than anything - I don't think it can be relied upon to provide some kind of universal 'fediverse link' (and I'm not just saying that because PieFed has no clue what to do with your link!)

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

OP’s link is bad - they’ve created a direct link to the community on lemm.ee and named that link !aom@lemm.ee, rather than just typing !aom@lemm.ee.

That's how Lemmy does by default if you use the autocompletion built in the interface.

Probably something to raise to the devs

[–] Zagorath@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they’ve created a direct link to the community on lemm.ee and named that link !aom@lemm.ee, rather than just typing !aom@lemm.ee

I just used the autocomplete built into Lemmy after typing !aom. It works just fine. If I click it on this account it takes me to https://lemm.ee/c/aom, if I click it on my main account it takes me to https://aussie.zone/c/aom@lemm.ee. Which is the desired behaviour.

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, sorry, Blaze explained after how it happens, so my comment was more critical than it should have been. Anyway, the point of all this extra chat on what should just be some community promo, was that the link format that - it turns out - Lemmy autogens is fine for you, and fine for me, but not for MBIN users (who's solution seems to be proposing an entirely different and untested link format for everyone else to use)