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[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

My dad has said since I was a kid that the secret to US political stability was the professional bureaucracy keeping everything running no matter who was in charge.

The really bad part is that once it's fucked it is exceptionally hard to un-fuck it. The people who leave find other work or retire and there is no private sector equivalent so you just lose all the expertise. This plan will cripple our country for a generation if it's allowed to come to fruition.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

I feel like this is just the next level of what Reagan did to cripple the government. You make it so they can't do their job effectively then use the fact that it's not efficient anymore as the reason to get rid of it all.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Nah, it's way worse. It will add a thick layer of corruption to the government and we would basically become like Russia. You will need to grease hands to get anything done, bad or good.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Definitely agree that it would be way worse, that's why I said it would be the next level of what Reagan was doing. It's down the same track but taking it to an even worse level.

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It definitely started with Reagan.

While he didn't originate the expression he did go on TV to quip “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”

Which is such a deeply stupid thing to say, but it perfectly characterized Reagan's animosity towards the bureaucracy that makes our country function. He did immense damage to that bureaucracy in his tenure, politicizing department heads that had previously been professionals, crippling useful programs like welfare and greenlighting wasteful ones like Star Wars. Conservatives are eager to make the government as ineffective as they claim it to be.

Project 2025 will be this and so much worse, but this trend really took off with Reagan.

Just add it to the pile of reasons why that man's grave should be spit upon.

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