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This godforsaken country is introducing the bill that allows to strip people of birth-given russian citizenship for some things - like desertion and discreditation of army (which happens every time you question war)

So, my question, if someone loses all citizenship, what happens next? Is their life basically over? Is there a way to re-gain citizenship (like, in another country)? Can they be deported?

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[–] ShaggyDemiurge@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once I can get citizenship in another country, I'm gonna publically burn my russian passport - but not earlier

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd advise against it if purely for ease of life in your new home country. Some, like UK require you to still have dealings with your previous country.

For example if i want to change my surname to my wifes name, home office demanded that i change the surname in my original passport first. They even say that if you need to physically go to your country of origin to do so, you have to unless they will kill you (for example persecution of LGBT). But i donno what kind of proof they would need to support this claim.

I have a strong suspicion that "burned my passport as a statement" would not qualify, even if it means supporting a terrorist state with cash (because consular services are paid by cash in 3rd world countries.)

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this depends on your situation. If you did seek asylum from russia, you won't be asked to "have dealings with your previous country". You will even be asked not to have any.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They provided me with a list of exceptions but these were all relatively vague and could be interpreted in many ways. For example "wanting not to support a terrorist state financially" was not on the list. Just saying that there may be a benefit to keep at least the expired passport. Maybe in which ever country op goes to, they might have more sensible rules than here.