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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I don't understand why people are all pro-piracy but then get offended when someone accuses them of piracy....

He never went on any "big rants". He's mentioned it a few times, and he's right. You're bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads) to watch the video. LTT doesn't really care because AdSense only makes up a small portion of their income, which is why he's shown many different times, many different ways to block/bypass advertising. I could make an argument about how he's "pulling up the ladder behind him" but I digress.

Regardless "piracy" is a fairly convoluted term with no concrete definition and it's a dumb argument for anyone to have.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is correct, he both explained how ad blocking hurts creators, and how ultimately he doesn't mind because purchasing merch is way more beneficial to them then the adsense money.

All he was saying is do what you want to do but don't pretend your actions don't impact other people. Do it with open eyes if you're going to do it.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

To be clear, blocking ads isn't directly denying anyone money. YouTube decides how video creators are paid and they choose to not pay if ads are blocked. You can agree or disagree with that decision, but the user has no role in it.

Personally I think it's shitty that YouTube can just refuse to pay for the content people create for them.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

YouTube decides how video creators are paid and they choose to not pay if ads are blocked.

So...this is YouTube's fault because they chose not to be a charity? LOL that's some gold-winning mental gymnastics right there.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You’re bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads)

By this argument going to the bathroom during a commercial break is piracy.

This isnt "someone being offended when accused of piracy"

This is " People getting upset when an idiot tries to blame end users, instead of holding the people who created the problem accountable"

Cause adblock isnt a user problem.

Its an ad service problem. They created a hostile environment where people had to run adblockers to protect themselves against unmoderated and unpoliced content and malicious/infected advertising.

If you have issues, blame the people who caused it, not the end users trying to protect themselves.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

This is " People getting upset when an idiot tries to blame end users, instead of holding the people who created the problem accountable"

Did Linus blame anyone though?
No. He simply stated a fact.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

By this argument going to the bathroom during a commercial break is piracy.

Only you didn't go to the bathroom. The ad just never appeared.

Chances of you getting up and leaving the room every time an ad comes on: 10%.

Chances of you blocking an ad with an ad-blocker: 100%.

This isnt "someone being offended when accused of piracy"

I think it very clearly is.

This is " People getting upset when an idiot tries to blame end users, instead of holding the people who created the problem accountable"

Whether it is piracy or not has nothing to do with blame or responsibility. You're still just taking personal offense to being called a pirate and conjuring up nonsense arguments to combat it.

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chances of you getting up and leaving the room every time an ad comes on: 10%.

Actually I have a track record of 100% getting up to do stuff when ads happen

Like what are you even doing in your life bro?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Using ad blockers. What are you doing?

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ad blocker on a tv broadcast, sure.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

I haven't watched TV since 2007...

[–] berengal@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, him calling it piracy or not doesn't matter, it's just a stupid semantic argument that doesn't matter at all to his overall point. And while I think it's a stupid take of him, it's also the reason people are still bringing up his opinion on the matter, so good job of him spreading his message I guess?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they want payment, they can require registration, agreement to payment and authentication. Nothing's stopping them. If they put something on the open web and try to monetize it, nobody owes them a living. If I put a display in a shop window, and include wording that says that looking at the display means you're obligated to also hear a sales pitch, everyone will rightly tell me to fuck off.

Choosing not to load potential spyware, malware and bloatware while looking at free content is no more piracy than is crossing the street while shopping to avoid a tout.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

Choosing not to load potential spyware, malware and bloatware while looking at free content is no more piracy

It is not free content. You're just spreading disinformation. Just like the movies you download when pirating are not free content. The payment is watching ads. You're utilizing software to forego that payment (just like piracy).