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[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Violence has been going down for centuries. We’re hearing about it more, but it’s declining. It peaked around 1993, and it’s been trending downward ever since.

If you zoom out and look at super long term trends, it’s been declining for centuries.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

that sure doesn't look like it's been going down for centuries. What about per capita?

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Here’s homicides per capita in Western Europe. I highly recommend reading The Better Angels of Our Nature by Steven Pinker. It goes into this in depth.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

Per capita, IIRC it peaks in the 70's. I've heard it proposed that it was down to leaded gasoline causing brain damage, and it's such a weird blip I have to consider that. Obviously, from WWII backwards through depression and prohibition it was plenty nasty.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Russian invasion is largest scale conflict since korean war.

Israel is conducting a genocide in Palestine.

WW3 is on the menu....

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Turn the news off and look at the data. It’s important to end these conflicts, but in terms of scale, these are far smaller than the past.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine was literally largest scale military conflict since Korean war. What are you talking about.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look at the sentence you wrote. Since the Korean War. And the Korean War was the biggest since the one before that.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -3 points 3 months ago

We are going on thrid year of the Russian savagery with no end in sight with brutal trench war fare with casualties to show for it.

We don't know geopolitical consequences of this and US disregard for "rules based international order" vis-a-vis israeli savagery but I trust you bro, we are living through the good times.