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Paid SSL vs Letsencrypt (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago by brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I'm curious what the benefits are of paying for SSL certificates vs using a free provider such as letsencrypt.

What exactly are you trusting a cert provider with and what are the security implications? What attack vectors do you open yourself up to when trusting a certificate authority with your websites' certificates?

In what way could it benefit security and/or privacy to utilize a paid service?

And finally, which paid SSL providers are considered trustworthy?

I know Digicert is a big player, but their prices are insane. Comodo seems like a good affordable option, but is it a trustworthy company?

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

you can automate the process (e.g. with nginx).

How does nginx automate that?

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a certbot addon which uses nginx directly to renew the certificate (so you don't need to stop the web server to renew). If you install the addon you just use the same certbot commands but with --nginx instead and it will perform the actions without interfering with web server operation.

You just then make sure the cron job to renew also includes --nginx and you're done.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh, that.. I think i'm using it but it seems.to expect a response from 80 when all I have there is a redirect to 443.

I thought you meant an nginx plugin.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 3 points 2 months ago

I have auto redirect to 443. But --nginx works fine. I think it overrides stuff for whatever the specific url used is.

[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago

Yes you need both 80 and 443 for certbot to work. Anyway having 80 to redirect to 443 is common and not a security risk.

[–] cron@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I meant certbot with nginx plugin and http-01 challenge.

[–] phase_change@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

The person isn’t talking about automating being difficult for a hosted website. They’re talking about a third party system that doesn’t give you an easy way to automate, just a web gui for uploading a cert. For example, our WAP interface or our on-premise ERP don’t offer a way to automate. Sure, we could probably create code to automate it and run the risk it breaks after a vendor update. It’s easier to pay for a 12 month cert and do it manually.