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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We might live in a strange world where it'll be easier to run Windows programs on ARM with Linux than on the OS they're written for.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just ran a VR game for Windows just this morning, worked like a charm, didn't tinker one minute (using Proton and SteamVR, Valve with NVIDIA, just for context).

Then you also read things like https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2024/08/21/linux-scores-a-surprising-gaming-victory-against-windows-11/ on non technical websites... and can't help but wonder if it "will" be easier or... if it's already done.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Imagine if Wine became the new Windows. (Or became all that was left of Windows).

[–] aard@kyu.de 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Windows 11 has pretty good x86 emulation, both 32 and 64bit - imo better than what macos does with rosetta. Windows 10 for arm is just a pretty broken tech preview, though.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does it? All of the "windows on arm" video I've seen say that tons of things are broken.

[–] aard@kyu.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been using an Arm notebook with Windows for over a year now (not as main system, but development system for a customer project). I'm running a lot of x86 software (like Emacs) as a gcc port for Windows/Arm is being developed only now - with no problems. It integrates nicely into the native stuff - which is one area where you run into issues on the Mac: If you start a shell in rosetta it's annoying to make calls to native arm binaries.

The only issue I ran into were some drivers not available for Arm - emulation layer (unsurprisingly) just is for userland, not kernel drivers. Also x86 emulation isn't working well if Windows is running in a virtual machine on MacOS - but supposedly that'll be fixed in the upcoming Windows release.

All of this only applies to Windows 11 - if for some reason you decide to run Windows 10 on Arm you're in a world of pain.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't think your experience is representative of a generic user. This video from Level1Techs paints a completely different picture. Gaming for example, is pretty much out of the picture in the ARM version of Windows.

[–] aard@kyu.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Performance of the snapdragons is roughly that of an i7 from a decade ago - so yes, it's a good machine for office tasks and light development, but in no way suitable for gaming. That's not a Windows problem, though, just the hardware is not suitable for that.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

No. You can't game on it meaning that the games do not even launch.