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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?" or whatever was in Kamala's speech. That's what I would have thought if it was here.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a really niche US reference that hardly anyone outside of the internet will understand, let alone the British public attending this rally.

The article sums it up well.

Prosecutor Jonathan Bryan said the term “coconut” was a “well-known racial slur which has a very clear meaning”.

He said: “You may be brown on the outside, but you’re white on the inside. In other words, you’re a race traitor – you’re less brown or black than you should be.”

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Oh, that's a lot less fun.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago

That’s a really niche US reference that hardly anyone outside of the internet will understand, let alone the British public attending this rally.

If we are honest. Older British public are less likely to be at such a rally. Then younger ones who grew up with the internet. It is a US term, but I think one understood by most Brits likely to attend a rally.

As for the concept behind it. IE, that of race treason. This is very much an idea that exist in UK non-white culture. Even back in the 90s, we had east Asian TV comedy taking the piss out of people for such things. Rather well as I remember.

That said. Whether such ideas are actually racist is more a debate by the likes of white racist groups then much of the rest of the UK.

Given how much of both east Asian and African culture, Arrived in the UK due to commonwealth links before the anti-immigration laws of the 1970s (as UK exported most of its slavery. A small % of current residents arrived here via that route). And the fact that much of the home culture in commonwealth nations has been infected? (best word I can think of) by cosmetic and presentation standards preferred by white culture.

This idea seems to be seen less offensively within such communities than in America.