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[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is not a left-right, one group vs another group, fascism against democracy argument. This is a well documented moral and philosophical conclusion that you don't give tools like these to a governing body or organization. The targets and terminology always get corrupted by bad-faith actors over time. You would not have control over how this information gets used nor the validity if someone just "placed" a sign for the photo so they would be targeted.

You are self-reporting to a system that has the ability to become oppressive, use your time more wisely if you wish to promote a good cause. https://go.kamalaharris.com/ has remote volunteering with phone banking etc and has training you can take and local events if that's your shtick.

[–] Th3BFG@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You realize this information is all freely and publicly available? A tool to be safe from fascists being abused by bad actors is still a tool to be safe from fascists. I'm not responsible for the actions of bad actors because I supported a tool. If I am, then based on your recommendation of helping VP Harris's campaign, doesn't that make you responsible for the genocide she is actively supporting? Also, please do not assume that I am anti-Democrat or pro anything. I am anti-fascist. Do not assume I'm not calling/donating/volunteering. This is just one facet of trying to help.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why can't fascists use this tool to network with each other?

Also, it would be more effective to have a map of rapists and dangerous men imo. I could and would contribute significantly to that type of list. A lot of wealthy men who are rapists are also white supremacists. I don't think I've ever been sexually assaulted by someone who WASN'T revealed to be racist.

[–] Th3BFG@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

because they already use Facebook/Twitter/TikTok/Prisons/Police Forces/etc.?

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The link was one example of something you can link as actually helpful and not detrimental to the democratic process. Making lists of political opponents (and especially citizens) is a fascists move, you're using the tools of the master to try and take down the house. If you support a tool being abused by bad actors, you need to look into that tool. Just because you're ignorant of the situation doesn't mean you aren't complicit.

[–] Th3BFG@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Are you looking in the mirror when you say that?

EDIT - I don't agree with your opinion, and you don't agree with mine. I don't think we're going to get much more from our conversation. Respond if you want, but have a good day, and I hope you have good luck with your future endeavours.