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Never smoked a cigarette, but I do try a drink now and then. I find the phrase "drugs & alcohol" relevant here in that they're different categories.
they really are not.
Yeah they are. One is less hassle, comes with no stigma and therefore no stress. "Why yes I have had a drink, officer, but just the one."
Also if you're a lightweight like me, you reach your limit at 2 pints. With cannabis? Who the hell knows, the quantities and potencies are still being standardized, and if you want to mix a lighter load you have to mix in more tobacco which is another stimulant.
No thanks, I'll have my brown lake water with 3% alcohol mixed in please.
no stigma has nothing to do with anything. people do die from its usage (or the consequences of its usage). It is more toxic than a lot of other "harder" drugs. It can ruin lives and break up families just as well. we're talking about what it is, not how it is perceived. I am also not implying you should smoke weed instead. Everyone has their drug of choice. To each their own. But make no mistake, it's a drug nonetheless.
That’s why people smoke it. You can feel how high you are with each puff and can control it easily.
Weed may be strong, but it isn’t fentanyl. One toke over the line is not the danger zone—even less so than one alcohol shot over the line.
It's not for me. I don't know why, but it makes me loopy. With beer, your liver builds a tolerance to it over time and your mind learns to not say certain things when under the influence. With weed, that tolerance is 100% mental as far as I can fathom, and I'm just too weak-willed under its influence apparently.
The tolerance isn’t totally mental, it just takes longer to build and recede than alcohol does.
To each their own though, not trying to pressure anybody.
where does the tolerance come from though? With alcohol it's very clear that there's one organ doing the heavy lifting. With weed, I have no idea.
Of course! Likewise, I'm not trying to shame anyone for picking weed over beer. Each to their own
Edit: Apparently it's "CB1 receptor density" in your brain that handles the tolerance.
It’s not your liver, it’s your GABA receptors downregulating that gives you a tolerance. Your liver helps with the duration and hangover but the lower peak intoxication is mediated by the receptors. Likewise with cannabis, your THC receptors downregulate to give you a weed tolerance. It is also processed by the liver.
Indeed, a lot of drugs that are non toxic have tolerance created in the brain, while more toxic drugs have to get processed by the kidneys and liver, which is why the functioning of those organs contributes to tolerance.
Apples and fruit. Cement and building materials. Giraffes and animals. Alcohol and drugs.